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Audi R15 , What could it be ?
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Herr Ulrich has said that Audi are not going down the Hybrid route , at least not yet anyway . Nor is it clear if the new R15 is an open topper or a coupe ? Will they stick with the diesel route ? Could they go back to petrol and run the R8 engine ? |
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There's a bit of discussion already in here:
http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=109508 |
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Audi has to consider 3 important factors:
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Good points gwyllion. I hadn't heard the smaller engine rumour before.
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Closed coupe.
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2. I've heard open barchettas has downforce advantage, cause they have lower bodyshell, without cabin 3. It's not so simple - to cut 2 cylindres from engine So, I hope, it will be coupe with V10TDI ![]() Coupes look well, and there is some fashion for it. Smaller engine give more place for future hybrid drive |
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Im kinda thinking about a Petrol Coupe .
Barchetta is a quicker driver change ? Ive heard the coupe has a slight aero advantage ? Last edited by The Badger; 22 Sep 2008 at 14:25. |
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2. Coupes in general have better aero efficiency which leads to more down force at the rear wing. 3. Its real easy to cut 2 cylinders from almost any engine... with a cutting torch... ![]() |
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That all seems to make sense. The R10 has almays been a handling beast in the slower corners due to the longer wheelbase. You also have to figure that IF diesel remains a priority for Audi,... that the 2011 regs would reduce the diesel displacement to a number much smaller than today (maybe in the area of 4.0L or so). The only area that i might disagree is the coupe bit. The changes to the wing are significant. This may be enough to sway Audi in the direction of staying with the open topped chassis. I don't know if this picture is real or not, but if so, tha wing is TINY! (if real, it also shows how quickly Audi has taken to the evaluation of the new rules - brilliant!)
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I couldn't confirm if it was a true or not, but someone on the "Salon Arnage" forum on endurance-info.com, on September 19, said that the French sports newspaper L'equipe published that the new Audi will be called R12 and it would be powered by a V8 4.4L essence.
The new LMP would début on the 12 Hours of Sebring if in this few months they achieve to complete it. If not, and if they think that with the new rules the R10 isn't competitive enough, Audi would stop competing during 2009, and come back in 2010. Maybe one of our French friends here can confirm this is real, or just a newspaper rumour. someone? Last edited by LeMans.pt; 22 Sep 2008 at 18:19. |
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They've already got an R10.
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I think it'll be a closed coupe with a deisel version of the R8(roadcar) enigine, and a hybrid one will run alongside a normal one .
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Coupe. Still diesel????????????????? Maybe a Lambo type V10 for lighter weight and probably a shorter wheelbase.
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R8 (Le Mans car) R9 (R8 roadcar) R10 (Diesel Le Mans car) R11 (2004 DTM A4)) R12 (2005 DTM A4) R13 (2006 DTM A4) R13Plus (2007 DTM A4) R14 (2008 DTM A4) R15 (Alleged new Le Mans car) |
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Add to that list R16 - GT3 R8.
I know beyond reasonable doubt its called the R15, I'm pretty certain its a roadster not a coupe, I do not know if its a diesel or a petrol but I suspect it may be a petrol. |
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On http://www.sportscarpros.com/cottonb...ry/default.htm Andrew Cotton suggests that diesels will still have a power advantage next year:
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Small correction for post 17,the R9 designation was used for the 1999 closed LMP initially.As for the new car,the technical challenge will have to be a new one and perhaps a smaller car with less weight would implant the notion in the minds of the general public that Audi can build cars that achieve good performance because of intelligent use of materials.
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So it must be a diesel, but that does not seem right either. Normally you use the maximum displacement for a certain restrictor size/boost pressure: 4000 cc, 4250 cc, 4500 cc, ..., 5500 cc. Next year diesels get 10% less air, hence my guess for 10% less displacement = 5000 cc. |
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