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Old 12 Sep 2011, 02:40 (Ref:2954197)   #126
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Old 15 Sep 2011, 09:17 (Ref:2955792)   #127
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Is marriage Underground Windmill of Tesla's Turbine is the optimum solution?





several cases that support the solution

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zdix_...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7nFg...eature=related

http://www.imp.gda.pl/en/research-ce...less-turbines/

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7695242.pdf


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Old 19 Sep 2011, 09:53 (Ref:2957936)   #128
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If you do not want to lose a large diameter fan operating in the Venturi nozzle, you should use " internal Venturi nozzles ".
These are just two cones inside a circular tube
Their convergence must be in accordance with the Bernoulli's principle, just like a normal venturi nozzle. So must be kept laminar flow. But we gain a large diameter fan. Theoretically, the energy gain obtained is 10 times larger in relation to the windmill in a narrow place of the normal venturi nozzle....
Field cross-sections must be changed in the same function as in classical venturi



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Old 27 Sep 2011, 20:15 (Ref:2961827)   #129
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Wind and water have long been a very liked.
So I think that such a solution, consistent with their preferences, will be most effective

It is a Venturi vidmil that drives large enough vane pump with sealing ring via water.
Thanks to such a seal, which is not consumed, and it is tight, you can use all the energy that gives us a venturi nozzle of the vacuum produced.. Because the turbine does not have any leaks.So theoretically, this will be the most efficient use of wind...

We can thus take advantage of the vacuum energy, what we get in other ways to obtain it from the wind.

New "turbine" is Liquid Ring Vaccum Pumps





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Old 28 Sep 2011, 10:03 (Ref:2962101)   #130
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And this looks like their production
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Old 29 Sep 2011, 01:28 (Ref:2962356)   #131
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Heron's Apache my be need this engine:

http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorjet



Heron's apache to drive propellers you may use electrically driven motors Motorjet. Then you can harness the power of their relatively high..

http://www.angelfire.com/art/jetengine/
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/attac...hmentid=777461

Well if he gave such ichyba two engines to the Hero's apache model, it is even quite good size, it could be...

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...&pp=15&page=11

May be person size??
The first hybrid helicopter??

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Old 29 Sep 2011, 22:16 (Ref:2962737)   #132
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Thanks to the new Heron's Apache we can build a pretty good quality helicopter

When we begin to design a small personal helicopter similar to this:
http://rotorfx.com/mosquito_experime...s_for_sale.htm
We see the need to drive to the main rotor diameter of 18 feet (5.5 meter)
We see the need to drive to the main rotor diameter of 18 feet (5.5 meter) and 540 rpm rotational speeds. To achieve such a speed we could use a torque 800 Nm ( ~ 80 kgm ).
Returning now to the Hero 's Apache, we can assume that the torque on the main propeller tubes produce more than us four propeller.
Let's say that in May they long 3.5 feet (1 meter ). So, as at the end of each of those tubes you put the engine that gives us a sequence of 10 N (2 Lbs) values ??(1kg) it will be added to the rotor torque of 10 Nm (1 kgm)
So four of these tubes with motors will give us a 40 Nm (4 kgm).
Now, assuming that our helicopter will be lighter with a big motor, gears and tail rotor, we can assume that he will need to drive only the main rotor diameter of 600 Nm at, say, 16 feet (4.9 m).
So if we placed the total at the end of the tube Heron's Apache silnki of values ??within 600/40 = 15
15 X 2 lbs = 30 lbs of force within, we get has fully functional helicopter....
As it turns out, these motors have already modelers....
http://www.wrenturbines.co.uk/media/...structions.pdf
Weight engines 8 Kg (14 Lbs)....
http://wn.com/jetkart 10 position video
If you want to build a crane helicopter, use these eight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE4t-o7XY6M :tsk
http://www.vortechinternational.com/review.html
http://www.jetcentral.com.mx/english/mammoth.html

Or a combination of hybrid electric..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DNOk5hXD60&noredirect=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEpbj...d&noredirect=1
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/attac...hmentid=777461
Or Only electric:
http://www.youtube.com/user/HansThunderbolt
40 pcs enought..~~ 40 KW and ful personal electric helicopter

So it happens that good fun can become a good professional...
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Old 30 Sep 2011, 11:16 (Ref:2962910)   #133
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Well, maybe but the full electric version:
These eight electric motors:
http://shop.rc-electric-jets.com/RC-...DF120-1A83.htm


Now just: 8 electric motors, ie 2, 3 / 4 Lbs each battery X 8 pieces = 22Lbs (~ 10 kg) and can fly for 5 minutes. That is 132 lbs ( 66kg ) meringue can fly 30 minutes at full load... Weight of motors is 132 16 = 148 lbs (74 kg) fuel + engines.

http://alshobbies.com/shop/lookupstock.php?pc=7178

Weight of the traditional system of propulsion engine of CRE MZ202 is 38 kg, the transmission of about 15 kg, 5 gallons of fuel to the tank about 20 kg, the total weight of 72 kg and the propulsion flight time 1 hour..
When you subtract the tail rotor 20 kg to obtain also a similar range..



Until you can control the direction of these one additional electric motors, administer, only a little smaller.

And this looks like a traditional electric version of the aircraft



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Old 3 Oct 2011, 02:02 (Ref:2964558)   #134
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I think that also the propeller airplanes can replenish the idea of ​​Heron's Jet Propeller. The latest toy modelers have superior features, and you may use them for "big air ".
Well let us take a small aircraft engine Rotax 447 to 44 Nm of torque. On the axis of the propeller must gear, have twice as large, ie ~ ~ 100 Nm (10 kgm ). Przytakim driving the propeller with a diameter of 1700 mm will be to spin it properly and give the appropriate string.
So at the end of a single turbine on the arm of Heron 's say a length of 500 mm have a string 200N (20 kg), and two shoulders at 100 N (10 kg). Then we were given the same torque on the propeller, which gives the Rotax engine.
http://www.faston.home.pl/r447.htm
After putting two turbines, modeling of over 10 kg (100 N), we get a replacement Rotax engine.
They even have the parameters several times larger than we need for this example.
Well, the weight of the drive unit will be cheaper too many times, what in aviation is crucial

It turns out that we already have a fairly large selection of gas turbine engines such
http://www.jetcatusa.com/p200.html
http://www.amtjets.com/Titan.php

And of course we have also quite a large number of electric motors to drive the turbines of jet aircraft models, whose parameters are such that we can use them in Heron's propeller well. Their parameters and parameters of the battery used in development Propeller Heron, causes them to become competitive with conventional engines
http://shop.rc-electric-jets.com/RC-...DF120-1A83.htm

They can be used in this exemplary model propeller Heron






After viewing a few videos of models turbuny aircraft, I saw that these turbines do not have to be at the end of the model, and may be in the middle, and the aid of additional exhaust pipes just flies out of the model.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNP9T...eature=related

From this reason, and my solution also applied this collective pipe, which is separated into 4 and changes the direction of exhaust gas.
Thanks to this, quite seriously improves the design Propellers Heron....


And weight in relation to the Rotax is 10 times less...
So that is similar in other much larger propeller propulsion system also...
http://www.amtjets.com/pdf/Olympus_HP_specification.pdf

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Old 6 Oct 2011, 10:34 (Ref:2966576)   #135
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This is the first contemporary working model turbines Heron.
* This photo accessories in my Low Budget Institute:



And this movie works as a turbine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J63NOqgPgVc


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Old 7 Oct 2011, 11:14 (Ref:2967074)   #136
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Yes, but even here the t motorcycle without an the traditional engine.......



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Old 7 Oct 2011, 13:41 (Ref:2967143)   #137
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Here, the view from the other side




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Old 8 Oct 2011, 11:17 (Ref:2967536)   #138
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Thanks Feliks, it's what i've always wanted to make.


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Yes. But how to dress these shoes a horse, it will be.... a car.
Turbine Heron, is the first rotary engine without any seals...

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Old 10 Oct 2011, 22:42 (Ref:2968972)   #139
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I published once the South African forum.

http://www.landcruiserclub.co.za/cms...t&profile=1316

Perhaps, someone saw it.
Here it is made and the working prototype engine half rotate. Only this power way and grinding cylindrer....
But it is works....


http://stallionturbos.co.za/index.ph...d=58&Itemid=83




















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Old 13 Oct 2011, 02:17 (Ref:2970233)   #140
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Tt looks exactly like the good ,old vane pump









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Old 13 Oct 2011, 02:59 (Ref:2970237)   #141
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Accidentally, I might be the only other forum member who knows Polish, so I can help if anybody would like to communicate anything to Andrew (or the opposite)
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I'd like to know how much of this stuff is a) his own work and b) been proven to work in real life.

Some of it seems fanciful, but all the same very intresting.
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I'd like to know how much of this stuff is a) his own work and b) been proven to work in real life.

Some of it seems fanciful, but all the same very intresting.
The ownership of ideas determines the order and sequence of formation of some inventions, because the order is documented historically. showing the path of historical formation. You can with 100% certainty, say that the order of creation and history shows the same inventor. Because the jet inventions very severe and sometimes long way. And be presumed that, since some inventions made ​​himself m are probably others too. Because he has that ability to invent. And undermining of property is inadequate.
Because amount of splendor for their own inventions, probably no longer in sufficient quantities...


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I'd like to know how much of this stuff is a) his own work and b) been proven to work in real life.

Some of it seems fanciful, but all the same very intresting.
I was able to exchange a couple of messages with Andrew, and basically all the projects posted by him are his own ideas, with the exception of the posts where it is clearly stated that it's otherwise (e.g. the semi-rotary engine).
Majority of the projects are based on the concept of re-using some well known (and working) designs in a completely new way (e.g. generating electric current by venturi effect).
Unfortunately, there are no existing prototypes for the most of those ideas, with the notable exception of the new4stroke engine, which was invented and built by Andrew himself. There are (at least) two working prototypes of the engine. Please take a look at www.new4stroke.com, where one can read about the idea, design, history and prototype of the project, plus some info about the inventor. And you'll be able to find lots of pictures as well.
Lastly, if you're wondering why those projects are posted on a motorsport forum, please note that Andrew was a competitive rally driver in the 70s.
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I was able to exchange a couple of messages with Andrew, and basically all the projects posted by him are his own ideas, with the exception of the posts where it is clearly stated that it's otherwise (e.g. the semi-rotary engine).
Majority of the projects are based on the concept of re-using some well known (and working) designs in a completely new way (e.g. generating electric current by venturi effect).
Unfortunately, there are no existing prototypes for the most of those ideas, with the notable exception of the new4stroke engine, which was invented and built by Andrew himself. There are (at least) two working prototypes of the engine. Please take a look at www.new4stroke.com, where one can read about the idea, design, history and prototype of the project, plus some info about the inventor. And you'll be able to find lots of pictures as well.
Lastly, if you're wondering why those projects are posted on a motorsport forum, please note that Andrew was a competitive rally driver in the 70s.
Really, thank you very much for favor, whose niece. And referring to, for some " contacts with me. Someone Notes with pól rotary engine is not my invention. Of course, that is my invention. ( That which has dawna published ). Recent Photos prototypu, The engine, which can be called half turnover but unlike my person, I would call it butterfly engine, there are pictures of my prototype, a prototype of someone who is in South Africa did it. have published it, because the principle of operation is similar to mine, (though in many respects very imperfect, but nevertheless acting.)
For the future, please do not rely on any contact with me, and do not write incredible things or statement which is my property and what is not. Now I do not wonder that the Poles circulates enough jokes... because no one gave any authority to speak for me in this forum.

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Pity that llink is not working. There was a nice movie...



Next Percival - it is too Heron
http://www.new4stroke.com/percival.pdf
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But all helicopters this typy such defects were....


Seems to me that the project Herons Apache version "FEL -X" will not have these disadvantages, and will be missing heavy and very unreliable gear....

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Here are a few solutions that can some of the problems to solve..

Surely you will need to test them in practice, before se makes the right decisions as to the shape of the structure of the drive.
Perhaps such a solution with a single tube might be the most efficient, because it will most laminar flow



Or a Cutter Heron



Of course, a whole can be properly enclosed guard areodynamic...




Well, here an example, if the electric drive can also adapt to the helicopter. Turbine itself would be inside the helicopter, but it would not be permanently linked to the rotor, so that no torque moved...



It is air- gear drive

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Old 20 Oct 2011, 01:06 (Ref:2974081)   #148
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A very delicate matter:

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Christmas gift :

One third of payments of electricity




Marry Chistmas evryone

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