[iV8SC14R070809] Winton 400, Winton -4-6 April - Page 2

Matt · 5 Apr 2014, 03:58 (Ref:3388875)

Shame Ingall had that drive-through, that was a fantastic drive. Might have gotten to the top step!

**GTRMagic** · 5 Apr 2014, 04:14 (Ref:3388879)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt

Shame Ingall had that drive-through, that was a fantastic drive. Might have gotten to the top step!

Another addition to the CAMS building coming up

Suggesting that he wants to take the blokes over to meet the crowd who were likely to '...kick the sh*t out of them...' Isnt likely to win friends in high places

BTSID Mr Ingall. $10,000 please !

No doubting 3rd was his.. Would have been great for the category... Could have
been handled in a post race penalty...

Odd

Go Russell... Gives hope to pensioners everywhere!!

peckstar · 5 Apr 2014, 04:18 (Ref:3388880)

See i though it needed to happen during the race, Dont want people getting podiums because they have taken people out in an obvious manner

Matters less if they are not spraying champagne so we can do that after the race

Some of the big names struggling towards the end. Triple 8 and HRT

xrystl · 5 Apr 2014, 04:30 (Ref:3388882)

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Another addition to the CAMS building coming up

Suggesting that he wants to take the blokes over to meet the crowd who were likely to '...kick the sh*t out of them...' Isnt likely to win friends in high places

BTSID Mr Ingall. $10,000 please !

No doubting 3rd was his.. Would have been great for the category... Could have
been handled in a post race penalty...

Odd

Go Russell... Gives hope to pensioners everywhere!!

I disagree (even being pensioner age) he barged his way through and others lost track position because of his agro driving , he could easily have redressed and re passed a bit further up the track as he certainly had track speed , same rules apply even if he did have better tyres than the others , a post race penalty would have made little difference to the team as he is starting the next race from the rear of the field and a points penalty would have about the same effect , IMHO he needs to grin and bear it as it was his and no one else's action which caused the incident .

**GTRMagic** · 5 Apr 2014, 04:57 (Ref:3388888)

Is it a coincidence that the cars Mr Ingall had contact with are regular visitors to the scenery in accidemt damage or mechanical failure?

**GTRMagic** · 5 Apr 2014, 05:16 (Ref:3388891)

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Another addition to the CAMS building coming up

Suggesting that he wants to take the blokes over to meet the crowd who were likely to '...kick the sh*t out of them...' Isnt likely to win friends in high places

BTSID Mr Ingall. $10,000 please !

No doubting 3rd was his.. Would have been great for the category... Could have
been handled in a post race penalty...

Odd

Go Russell... Gives hope to pensioners everywhere!!

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Racing Harz · 5 Apr 2014, 06:18 (Ref:3388899)

Victory for Lee Holdsworth in the Mercedes!

**GTRMagic** · 5 Apr 2014, 06:19 (Ref:3388900)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racing Harz

Victory for Lee Holdsworth in the Mercedes!

Go Erebus!

Perhaps MBA might like to add its brandi g on there somewhere!!

rich07 · 5 Apr 2014, 06:26 (Ref:3388904)

Woohoo!!!!

Congrats to the guys and girls at Erebus and to Lee Holdsworth. Well done!!

Matt · 5 Apr 2014, 06:28 (Ref:3388905)

WELL deserved victory for everyone at Erebus. Lee drove smart and didn't force the issue too much. Really clean race too compared to the first one.

NinnyMan · 5 Apr 2014, 06:45 (Ref:3388910)

Quote:

Originally Posted by one five five

This 10min qualifying is ridiculous, no time to do anything except go out there with what you've got and have a blast and hope no one gets in your way.
Qualifying was once an art, now its just a lottery presumebly designed to do nothing but jumble the grid for the race.
Why not save more costs and cut qualifying altogether, grid positions for the races being drawn out of a hat, Peter Jackson Dash style? 10mins only is a waste of time.

F1 qualy is only 10minutes (Q3) and people seemed to be fine with it.
I don't have a problem with it. I like it. Short and sharp. That's the new art form of qualy.
I think the nature of the track surface at Winton is playing a factor in the mixed up grid this weekend though.

Different winners and different people on the podium has to be good, doesn't it??? Better then seeing T888 dominate.

chavez · 5 Apr 2014, 06:49 (Ref:3388911)

Quote:

Originally Posted by NinnyMan

F1 qualy is only 10minutes (Q3) and people seemed to be fine with it.
I don't have a problem with it. I like it. Short and sharp. That's the new art form of qualy.
I think the nature of the track surface at Winton is playing a factor in the mixed up grid this weekend though.

Different winners and different people on the podium has to be good, doesn't it??? Better then seeing T888 dominate.

Isn't Q3 in F1 is now 12 minutes? ...........because 10 minutes was deemed too short.

But 10 minutes is plenty of time at most of the tracks.

xrystl · 5 Apr 2014, 06:49 (Ref:3388912)

Great to see an Erebus win , congratulations to Holdsworth and the team a very well deserved win , hope Tomorrow is the same .

team drinkalot · 5 Apr 2014, 06:50 (Ref:3388913)

There is no equality in the penalties. Courtney pushed somebody wide and made a pass. Mostert caused the major incident of the first race - NO penalties.
Everybody else seemed to know Russel had better tyres and was 2 seconds a lap faster. I would of given Dale a drive through for being stupid.

NinnyMan · 5 Apr 2014, 07:07 (Ref:3388916)

Quote:

Originally Posted by chavez

Isn't Q3 in F1 is now 12 minutes? ...........because 10 minutes was deemed too short.

But 10 minutes is plenty of time at most of the tracks.

Yes, your right they bumped it to 12 minutes this year. They took 2 minutes off Q1.
Either way I think 10 or 12 minutes is long enough and still an art form to
get the best out of the allocated time.

NinnyMan · 5 Apr 2014, 07:09 (Ref:3388918)

Quote:

Originally Posted by team drinkalot

I would of given Dale a drive through for being stupid.

You can't handout penalties for mental capacity (otherwise most of them
would be touring pitlane every lap)....or are you referring to something else???

bluesport · 5 Apr 2014, 07:27 (Ref:3388920)

Wasn't the bloke racing for position? Or was he being lapped by Russell?

**GTRMagic** · 5 Apr 2014, 07:29 (Ref:3388921)

Quote:

Originally Posted by team drinkalot

There is no equality in the penalties. Courtney pushed somebody wide and made a pass. Mostert caused the major incident of the first race - NO penalties.
Everybody else seemed to know Russel had better tyres and was 2 seconds a lap faster. I would of given Dale a drive through for being stupid.

Was it Mr Wood who got in the way? I thought it was Mr Wall..?

NinnyMan · 5 Apr 2014, 07:36 (Ref:3388922)

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluesport

Wasn't Dale racing for position? Or was he being lapped?

Not sure what incident your referring to in-relation to Dale????
From what I saw today (race 7) he ran in the top 4 pretty clean
and deserved his 3rd position on merit.

AS GTR said, I think people are getting DALE WOOD confused with DAVID WALL.
Wall was racing for position with Rusty so although, yes Rusty had better tyre life
and thus better pace, he didn't automatically have to just "let" Rusty through.
If Rusty used his aging head and waited till the end of the straight, i am sure he
would have got passed without incident and gone on to claim the podium position.
Maybe old age is catching up with his judgement??

bluesport · 5 Apr 2014, 07:40 (Ref:3388923)

Quote:

Originally Posted by NinnyMan

Not sure what incident your referring to in-relation to Dale????
From what I saw today (race 7) he ran in the top 4 pretty clean and deserved
his 3rd position on merit.

AS GTR said, I think people are getting him confused with Mr DAVID WALL.
Wall was racing for position with Ingall so although, yes Rusty had better
tyre life and thus better pace, he didn't automatically have to just "let" Rusty past.

My bad, Dale was mentioned in previous posts........it was Wall.

DV_08 · 5 Apr 2014, 07:40 (Ref:3388924)

Ingall deserved the penalty that he got but it is fair to say that there were a number of other incidents in that race that need to be reviewed.

Umai Naa · 5 Apr 2014, 08:35 (Ref:3388935)

It takes two to make a clean pass.

If drivers are going to keep turning in on a car that's down the inside of them, then contact is inevitable.

**GTRMagic** · 5 Apr 2014, 08:43 (Ref:3388937)

Supashock apparently had its first V8Supercar race win today too...

chavez · 5 Apr 2014, 08:59 (Ref:3388943)

And Percat's penalty was................

peckstar · 5 Apr 2014, 09:52 (Ref:3388952)

Naughty Rusty

Quote:

Russell Ingall is being investigated by CAMS stewards for his post-race comments following race one at the Winton 400.

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