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I must say I actually like the sound of that...
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I'm okay with that.
Even though I can't see Volvo or Lada staying. |
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Zakspeed almost entered Volvos in the DTM when it was resurrected in 2000.
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6 Nov 2016, 11:55 (Ref:3685929) | #157 | |
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http://www.motorsport.com/dtm/news/s...heider-846836/
"Selfish" manufacturers threaten DTM's future - Scheider. |
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The problem is the lack of competition, as each manufacturer essentially has a single team (literally in the case of Mercedes). Drivers from the same team don't actually race each other. It's very different from V8 Supercars, where for example Holden teams do race each other. Also, the calendar is too short and the 18-car grid is too small. |
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7 Nov 2016, 18:49 (Ref:3686280) | #161 | |
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Okay so it's a big mistake by DTM and Volvo.
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Volvo now has the big discussion with the V8SC team running their cars. Volvo Sweden wants them stop racing and the team says they don´t have to.
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Here's a question. Say I'm the head of Callaway (I'm not, to be clear). I want to build six Camaros to race in next year's DTM. Can I? What do I need to do?
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No, unless you are blessed by GM board and you commit to the same level of marketing and promotion of the other manufacturers.
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18 Nov 2016, 00:41 (Ref:3688966) | #165 | ||
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So it's a manufacturers' closed shop? A shame. Thinking of the valiant Ruch Mustangs in the old DTM.
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Yep
No chance for privateers to enter. |
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What would it cost to enter a car full sesaon? So only running costs. Manufacturers lease their cars for little of even free to teams.
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I don't think running them is more expensive than running an LMP2 or a GT3 - why would it be? |
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Actually Norbert Haug revealed during a DTM race that a current DTM car costs 700-800k €. Development not included. So a private team would need either a rich sponsor or loads of paydrivers to just get a DTM programm off the ground. But even then, you probably wouldn't compete head-to-head with the manufacturers, as their testing and development budget is simply much higher.
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I back DTM's strong manufacturers involvment, for me it's good for sport to have factory teams with their budgets and so on. Thanks to that, there are no paydrivers in the series, so unlike as in present pay-and-drive motorsport world. However, that's a huge shame that since 2000 there were only four manufacturers involved, and BMW only since 2012 while Opel only till 2005. Would be great to see new manufacturers in the DTM.
By the way, I wonder how big DTM drivers' salaries are. |
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From what I remember, you could become a millionaire as a DTM-driver, but it wasn't by any means a certainty. Most of the grid probably didn't make more than a regular upper-middle-class salary. And the millionaire thing was when they still had household names like Schneider and Ludwig and Winkelhock, who were highly marketable and showed up in TV commercials and what not - somehow I don't think today's crop of drivers is nearly as much of an asset to their employers and might consequently be paid less. |
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Are you able to name such drivers?
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