Rosberg: F1 weights "unfair" - Page 2

Marbot · 31 Jan 2009, 18:02 (Ref:2383313)

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Originally Posted by Super Hans

And he's still a good 20kg lighter than me. Oh dear.

Me too!

duke_toaster · 31 Jan 2009, 18:10 (Ref:2383316)

This talk of statistics ... what about Superstars - F1 Special?

foreversideways · 31 Jan 2009, 18:58 (Ref:2383329)

Perhaps we should have a new "ism" to go along with racism, sexism, etc etc. Seriously though the sport has become the home of the short and skinny, in fact i have seen bigger jockeys. Those people who are tall or have a muscular frame have no chance. The likes of James Hunt would have no chance today. No doubt in mind mind the rules should be changed to force all teams to provide a cockpit big enough to accommodate a broad range of sizes. Weight should be ballasted up for the lighter driver to a higher limit for the same reason. In fact if you think about it, with peoples all over the world becoming taller and larger due to better diets, Formula One drivers are completely unrepresentative of the population in general.

Marbot · 31 Jan 2009, 19:10 (Ref:2383334)

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Originally Posted by foreversideways

Formula One drivers are completely unrepresentative of the population in general.

Agreed.They're all male for a start,which is why you never hear from them those immortal words: "Does my bum look big in this?"

foreversideways · 31 Jan 2009, 19:14 (Ref:2383337)

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Originally Posted by Marbot

Agreed.They're all male for a start,which is why you never hear from them those immortal words: "Does my bum look big in this?"

Forgot about that, at least Indy Car has Danica

Also have to admit i am a bit biased being 6.2", it's a real squeeze in a Formula Ford.

jedrinck · 31 Jan 2009, 19:18 (Ref:2383341)

Yeah, but you may hear something like 'Ooh, I shouldn't have eaten that celery, another 11 calories I'll have to get rid of on the treadmill'.

duke_toaster · 31 Jan 2009, 19:25 (Ref:2383342)

I think a level of ballast for lighter drivers, plus possibly a requirement to be able to fit an average size person in the car could be sensible. Formula SAE requires the car to be able to fit a 90th percentile bloke and a 10th percentile woman (?), that could be a bit extreme for F1 where the cars aren't designed with anything like mass production in mind.

Marbot · 31 Jan 2009, 19:27 (Ref:2383343)

Headline:

'Webber grabs pole after having right leg amputated'

"It was real crook anyway mate".Said a joyful Mark Webber.

Jeff 8 · 31 Jan 2009, 23:57 (Ref:2383440)

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Originally Posted by Clive Brown

... decide the grid for each and every race by staging a massed fist-fight between all the drivers . Last man standing's on pole !

I would have liked to see this in the era before the drivers were all rich kids destined from birth to make it to F1. Sir Jack vs Graham Hill, Andretti vs Hunt etc.

Jeff

Clive Brown · 1 Feb 2009, 00:03 (Ref:2383442)

The Jonesy v. Piquet Snr. contest nearly happened for real . That would have been brief , but interesting ....

bestfit · 1 Feb 2009, 00:53 (Ref:2383456)

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Formula SAE requires the car to be able to fit a 90th percentile bloke and a 10th percentile woman

At the same time?

Satorian · 1 Feb 2009, 01:04 (Ref:2383458)

Hey, even the Isetta conforms to that!

foreversideways · 1 Feb 2009, 11:22 (Ref:2383614)

I remember the film where Hunt floors the marshall with a single right hook, so my money would have been on him.

duke_toaster · 1 Feb 2009, 12:10 (Ref:2383631)

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Originally Posted by bestfit

At the same time?

Nope, it's a single seater car - if you haven't seen one, the MRT car in Live For Speed is a FSAE car (McGill's entry from a few years ago). That's all IIRC, the sizes might be different but it can't be too small or be difficult to drive for someone short. I presume they can adjust the pedals and things as well.

duke_toaster · 1 Feb 2009, 12:26 (Ref:2383634)

And it's a 95th percentile male that must fit, no rule about smaller people. Just checked the 2009 FSAE rules.

Large PDF warning - page 51 for the diagram.

Super Hans · 1 Feb 2009, 12:50 (Ref:2383643)

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Originally Posted by Clive Brown

I've thought of a great way to both save the cost of all that unnecessary running round in practice and qualifying , and to mitigate the weight advantage currently enjoyed by the more delicately-formed drivers ; decide the grid for each and every race by staging a massed fist-fight between all the drivers . Last man standing's on pole !

Hmm, interesting...

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Originally Posted by James Allen

Welcome to the 2008 Brazilian Grand Prix at Interlagos, where Jose Froilan Gonzalez has taken his 803rd consecutive pole position...

duke_toaster · 1 Feb 2009, 13:58 (Ref:2383680)

Will drivers be allowed weapons? If so, Bertrand Gachot might have been more successful!

Devilsadvocate · 1 Feb 2009, 19:53 (Ref:2383762)

Hasn't a drivers weight always been an issue? The only real difference now is the fact that KERS is coming in and making every last Kilo a bigger issue.

It is interesting that both Kimi and Fernando are reported to have deliberately lost weight in preparing for the 2009 season.

Marbot · 1 Feb 2009, 19:58 (Ref:2383768)

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Originally Posted by Devilsadvocate

It is interesting that both Kimi and Fernando are reported to have deliberately lost weight in preparing for the 2009 season.

I believe that both are included in an article in a recent edition of 'Slimming Monthly'.

Devilsadvocate · 1 Feb 2009, 20:12 (Ref:2383777)

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Originally Posted by Marbot

I believe that both are included in an article in a recent edition of 'Slimming Monthly'.

They're on front cover of the Weight Watchers magazine too.

duke_toaster · 1 Feb 2009, 20:37 (Ref:2383795)

A minimum weight for seat+driver would be sensible. However, what should the weight of the driver be presumed to be? Bearing in mind that F1 drivers, being athletes in this sort of sport will not be heavier than average (so looking at the weights of American Footballers wouldn't work) ... would 75kg + gear + seat be a sensible minimum weight for driver + seat?

Super Hans · 1 Feb 2009, 20:57 (Ref:2383804)

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Originally Posted by Devilsadvocate

It is interesting that both Kimi and Fernando are reported to have deliberately lost weight in preparing for the 2009 season.

Fernando has acheived his weight loss by running 10kms daily and cutting all saturated fat and refined sugar from his diet. Kimi simply can't be bothered to get up to go to the fridge.

Marbot · 2 Feb 2009, 00:33 (Ref:2383913)

I bought the 'Kimi Raikkonen's laid back slimming' DVD,but I can't be........zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

**Bononi** · 2 Feb 2009, 01:17 (Ref:2383928)

Well he could try Michael Phelps' solution also, they say it's guaranteed...

JeremySmith · 2 Feb 2009, 01:22 (Ref:2383932)

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Originally Posted by Marbot

I bought the 'Kimi Raikkonen's laid back slimming' DVD,but I can't be........zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Don't underestimate the Finn...

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