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23 Feb 2004, 19:36 (Ref:883127)
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series for under £10k...
my sponsorship raising for this season has failed miserably
 what series can i race for under £10k? preferably saloons, but i've gotta be able to be competitive. |
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23 Feb 2004, 19:39 (Ref:883135)
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Probably many club series will be affordable on £10k. Obviously I would suggest regional FF1600 [just imagine they are saloons without a roof, or doors]
Good luck in whatever you do. |
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23 Feb 2004, 21:53 (Ref:883302)
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Don't look at it being a failed sponsorship attempt, just consider yourself a patron.
My budget for the year is very similar to yours and I will be racing Monoposto and some 750MC F4 races in a Formula Renault, which includes a race in Spa... I don't really know anything about saloons but I always want as much speed as possible for my money, hence single seaters. So you could go FF1600 - very good races and full grids, FF1800 in the Mono and F4 championship or run a 1982 Van Diemen FF2000 in the URS pre-83 and F4 championships. With that budget you could be very competitive. Have fun |
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23 Feb 2004, 22:55 (Ref:883359)
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i'm thinkin of saving and then doing the clio winter series at the end of the year.
will be gut wrenching to watch the whole year from the sidelines though. |
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23 Feb 2004, 23:31 (Ref:883403)
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Why blow it all on a couple of weekends?
I'm guessing here that you are a newcomer. You would benefit more from a full season in a club series [of which there are many] than jumping in at the deep end in a 'high[ish] profile class' with experienced campaigners and probably ending up disillusioned. Think about it. Last edited by diz; 23 Feb 2004 at 23:32. |
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23 Feb 2004, 23:44 (Ref:883421)
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You can do the NW FF1600 championship on £10k. I would do it every time over 2 race weekends in the Clio Winter series which would cost you the same.
FF1600 really is a great place to hone your skills. If you can win in FF1600, particularly at Combe or in the NW champ’s, chances are you will do well in anything else you do. If you do well, believe me, you will be noticed, even more so this year as there are a lot of people looking at FF1600 now. There is just too big a risk throwing your entire budget at a winter series. Hope that helps. Last edited by goughy; 23 Feb 2004 at 23:47. |
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24 Feb 2004, 00:22 (Ref:883456)
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What's up with kartingdad? He's been quiet of late. Have you been testing yet? Back to the thread I think acf8181 is looking for the security / familiarity of having bodywork around him, but as mentioned earlier he can spend £10k and get far better value in a clubbie tintop series for the whole season. |
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24 Feb 2004, 00:43 (Ref:883470)
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He's taking a bit of a back seat, he's still viewing though.
Testing on March 3rd/4th at Snetterton and cannot wait. Also at Oulton on the 16th/17th, by then that will be my 5th day in the car so should be up to speed by then. If you want to go tin-top, Fiesta XR2I's might be a good route. I think Neil Waterworth who now races Clio's was a champion a few years ago and there is some pretty quick guy's in it like Ray Grimes. |
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24 Feb 2004, 01:35 (Ref:883500)
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24 Feb 2004, 01:43 (Ref:883505)
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24 Feb 2004, 08:25 (Ref:883674)
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This poor guy wanted to race saloons,all you have suggested so far are single seaters.
Surely there is a saloon formula available for an annual budget of 10k? |
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24 Feb 2004, 08:58 (Ref:883701)
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Stock Hatch?
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24 Feb 2004, 09:12 (Ref:883716)
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Suggest you speak to someone like the 750MC who run lots of clubbie series. That said £10k isn't going to go far - national karting in just about any class will set you back more than that - and I haven't been in that scene for about 5 years when a season of eiro enduro karting cost more tha that - but you could at least split that between three drivers!
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24 Feb 2004, 09:16 (Ref:883718)
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ok, lot of replies to answer...
diz - i want to do a high profile competitive series, as a)i'm confident, and b)wanna push myself! (call me ambitious). i've done BRDC single seaters before now, so am actually more familiar with single seaters, but its not where i wanna go (i'm too old for F1, and every tom, dick and harry is in single seaters)...i want to race btcc eventually, so it makes sense to stay in the same area. goughy - i live in the south east, so a NW series isn't really a good idea. bob pearson - good point! richy_rich - i have looked at stock hatch, but the problem is that there are guys out there who spend a lot more on their cars, and the performance varies. ideally i don't wanna go into the club scene as i wanna make a career out of this and there's a risk of getting labeled/stuck as a club competitor. if i didn't win outright, then it wouldn't do me any good. i think it is better to wait and do some clio's later in the season. Last edited by acf8181; 24 Feb 2004 at 09:16. |
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24 Feb 2004, 09:22 (Ref:883724)
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24 Feb 2004, 10:52 (Ref:883792)
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well, its still not a saloon is it?
anyone heard of alfa centurini? |
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24 Feb 2004, 11:23 (Ref:883836)
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Why not send Rod Birley a PM to see if he can suggest anything for you as he is on the BARC SE Committee?
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24 Feb 2004, 12:03 (Ref:883891)
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It's the "wanting to be noticed" part that narrows it down. Quite frankly how many saloon formulas below Clio would reward the winner with any sort of acclaim at all.
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24 Feb 2004, 12:57 (Ref:883971)
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I agree with Bob, you want to have a budget of 10K, want a high profile series, want to win, ideally do NOT wannt to go into club scene, do not want to be labelled /stuck as a club competitor. I don't think you are going to find what you are looking for in Club racing, I race an MG Midget succesfully in the MGCC Total Butler series and won a number of races last year, I race on a budget of as little as possible (around £4K for 2003).I use Formula Ford Zetec tyres that I blag of the teams and do it for fun!! However I do not get noticed other than the odd race report in Motorsport News and Autosport. I guess the point I am trying to make is that it sounds as if you would be better off saving your money until you can do something high profile properly.
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last year it was fast and fragile, this year it's just fragile!!
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24 Feb 2004, 13:23 (Ref:883995)
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Why not the BRSCC Fiesta Chapionship with a Pete Daniels.
Would be more than possible on that budget, I'd have thought. Drop me a PM & I'll give you Petes number.... |
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24 Feb 2004, 13:33 (Ref:884005)
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is 10k a racing budget or does it include the car as well ?
my cars cost around 10k . . .and I reckon a seasons worth of racing and general expenses will be around 5k . . .as long as I dont have any major mishaps I'll still have the car at the end of the season, so thats 5k . . .I have no sponsorship so do pretty much everything myself, with invaluable helpers as well! |
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24 Feb 2004, 13:37 (Ref:884007)
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What about Mini 7 Racing, is that 10k to run the car ?
or does that include the purchase? You could pick up a car for about 5,000k to 7,000k Basic running costs for a Mini 7 about 500.00 GBP per race with a ten race calender. Not including Crash \ Engine damage. And we hope to be back on the SCV8 supports for 2005. http:\\www.mini7.co.uk |
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24 Feb 2004, 13:50 (Ref:884021)
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What about Mini 7 Racing, is that 10k to run the car ?
or does that include the purchase? You could pick up a car for about 5,000k to 7,000k Basic running costs for a Mini 7 about 500.00 GBP per race with a ten race calender. Not including Crash \ Engine damage. And we hope to be back on the SCV8 supports for 2005. http:\\www.mini7.co.uk |
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25 Feb 2004, 08:55 (Ref:884944)
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It is possible to get noticed/use club racing as a springboard. Dan Ealing dominated in K-Sports a few years ago and went on to Brit GT the year after. Didn't someone do a similar thing in FVee as well (moved to FRenault or something)?
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25 Feb 2004, 09:11 (Ref:884956)
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yes, it is possible, but you have to dominate...which i'm not sure you can do for £10k.
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