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Old 18 Apr 2011, 21:46 (Ref:2866089)   #1
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GT1 and GT3 how many cars

There appears to be quite a bit of interest in Europe for these categories (not much interest here in Oz) and I was was wondering how many GT1 and GT3 cars have been built/are racing?

Aston have said that they built 26 DBR9 chassis for GT3, but what about the other manufacturers?
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Old 18 Apr 2011, 21:49 (Ref:2866093)   #2
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Old 18 Apr 2011, 22:51 (Ref:2866139)   #3
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Some figures from the top of my head:

Merc: 31 SLS in the first year...

Audi: 8 in the first year, 20 in the 2nd

Porsche: 20 cars in the first batch of GT3Rs
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Old 18 Apr 2011, 22:56 (Ref:2866143)   #4
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31 SLS ????? .. they're confident i must say
were all of them sold?
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Old 18 Apr 2011, 23:08 (Ref:2866155)   #5
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31 SLS ????? .. they're confident i must say
were all of them sold?
I think so. Everybody and their Grand-Ma seems to have bought one, at least here in Germany...
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Old 19 Apr 2011, 00:46 (Ref:2866183)   #6
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Maserati MC12 GT1- 5, possibly 6, rumour has it the 6th car was converted from a road chassis (?).

Ferrari built well in excess of 40 F430 GT/GTC/GTE plus the GT3 cars that were built by Kessel (another 40+).

Aston DBR9 GT1-from what I know there was only around a dozen built.

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Old 19 Apr 2011, 04:50 (Ref:2866229)   #7
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If you count all the Porsche GT3 Cup, Cup S and GT3R's, there has to be at least a few hundred out built.
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Old 19 Apr 2011, 06:49 (Ref:2866246)   #8
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[QUOTE=rich07;2866183]Maserati MC12 GT1- 5, possibly 6, rumour has it the 6th car was converted from a road chassis (?).
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At least 11 chassis:

001 Hubert Haupt
002/15439 Vitaphone
003 AF Corse
004 JMB
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007 Vitaphone/Playteam/TripleH
008 JMB
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Old 19 Apr 2011, 07:20 (Ref:2866259)   #9
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Then, of course 8 Corvette C6R...

Around 40-ish Dodge Viper GTS-R (GT1)

And I seem to remember 8 Prodrive Ferrari 550s.
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Old 19 Apr 2011, 07:23 (Ref:2866261)   #10
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Maserati MC12 GT1- 5, possibly 6, rumour has it the 6th car was converted from a road chassis (?).
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At least 11 chassis:

001 Hubert Haupt
002/15439 Vitaphone
003 AF Corse
004 JMB
005 Racing Box
006/15443 AF Corse
007 Vitaphone/Playteam/TripleH
008 JMB
009/15445 Vitaphone
010 Playteam
011 Doran Racing
My bad, was going on one source which certainly wasnt this.

http://www.projectlemans.de/content/view/3849/172/

Any truth to the rumour that Michael Bartels owns outright one of the Vitaphone cars that isnt raced anymore and is his personal toy?
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Old 19 Apr 2011, 10:28 (Ref:2866369)   #11
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The more pertinent question is - How many GT1 cars are there in a currently raceable spec?

That figure is MUCH smaller

For instance - 4 Ford GTs, 5 Lamborghinis (4 FIA GT1 cars plus the JLOC car), 4 Nissans, currently rather fewer than 4 Corvettes!, currently 4 Astons (with others convertable) and 4 MC12s (ditto) plus two Saleens (Larbre and Atlas EFX).

As for GT3 - That numbers way into three figures, particularly when you take account of the number of different marques and models which have been homologated -

How many of them are currently racing and/ or competitive though is an altogether different question!
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Old 19 Apr 2011, 13:17 (Ref:2866447)   #12
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In addition to the four current Ford GT1s, Marc VDS still owns the original development car used in the 2009 FIA GT championship. But it's not fully up to current spec.

Out of interest, could someone tell me the current whereabouts of all the remaining Saleen chassis? I have a rough picture but I'd like to be fully informed.

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Old 19 Apr 2011, 13:45 (Ref:2866461)   #13
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Out of interest, could someone tell me the current whereabouts of all the remaining Saleen chassis? I have a rough picture but I'd like to be fully informed.
I'm pretty interested to know too.
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Old 20 Apr 2011, 00:51 (Ref:2866744)   #14
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Ferrari built well in excess of 40 F430 GT/GTC/GTE plus the GT3 cars that were built by Kessel (another 40+).

Aston DBR9 GT1-from what I know there was only around a dozen built.
Last time I checked RacingSportsCars there were 18 DBR9's and over 100 F430 GTCs!
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Last time I checked RacingSportsCars there were 18 DBR9's and over 100 F430 GTCs!
I know there were plenty of 430GTC built but over a 100?
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Maserati MC12 GT1- 5, possibly 6, rumour has it the 6th car was converted from a road chassis (?).

Ferrari built well in excess of 40 F430 GT/GTC/GTE plus the GT3 cars that were built by Kessel (another 40+).

Aston DBR9 GT1-from what I know there was only around a dozen built.

Nice to see another Aussie Sportscar Racing fan on here, you could fit us all into a phonebooth (if you could find one ).
Here are production numbers for GTS/GT1 cars:
Aston Martin DBR9 - 19
Chevy Corvette C5-R - 12
Chevy Corvette C6.R - 8
Prodrive Ferrari 550 - 10
Matech Ford GT1 - 5-6
Maserati MC12 - 11
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT/R-SV - 15-20
Saleen S7R - 16
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I know there were plenty of 430GTC built but over a 100?
109! That seems to include GT Open and SuperGT, but still...
http://www.racingsportscars.com/type...430%20GTC.html
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F131 EVOGT 2402
F131 EVOGT 2404
F131 EVOGT 2406
F131 EVOGT 2408
F131 EVOGT 2410
F131 EVOGT 2412
F131 EVOGT 2414
F131 EVOGT 2416
F131 EVOGT 2418
F131 EVOGT 2420
F131 EVOGT 2422
F131 EVOGT 2424
F131 EVOGT 2426
F131 EVOGT 2428
F131 EVOGT 2430
F131 EVOGT 2432
F131 EVOGT 2434
F131 EVOGT 2436
F131 EVOGT 2438
F131 EVOGT 2442
F131 EVOGT 2446
F131 EVOGT 2450
F131 EVOGT 2452
F131 EVOGT 2454
F131 EVOGT 2456
F131 EVOGT 2458
F131 EVOGT 2460
F131 EVOGT 2462
F131 EVOGT 2464
F131 EVOGT 2466
F131 EVOGT 2468
F131 EVOGT 2470
F131 EVOGT 2472
F131 EVOGT 2474
F131 EVOGT 2476
F131 EVOGT 2478
F131 EVOGT 2480
F131 EVOGT 2482
F131 EVOGT 2484
F131 EVOGTC 2606
F131 EVOGTC 2608
F131 EVOGTC 2610
F131 EVOGTC 2612
F131 EVOGTC 2614
F131 EVOGTC 2616
F131 EVOGTC 2618
F131 EVOGTC 2620
F131 EVOGTC 2622
F131 EVOGTC 2624
F131 EVOGTC 2626
F131 EVOGTC 2628
F131 EVOGTC 2630
F131 EVOGTC 2632
F131 EVOGTC 2634
F131 EVOGTC 2636
F131 EVOGTC 2638
F131 EVOGTC 2640
F131 EVOGTC 2642
F131 EVOGTC 2644
F131 EVOGTC 2646
F131 EVOGTC 2656
F131 EVOGT 2406#
F430-GPC#
F430-GPC-ESP#
F430-GPC-ESP12#
F430-GPC-ESP14#
F430-GPC-ESP25#
F430-GPC-Open18#
F430-GPC-Open19#
F430-GPC-Open23#
F430-GPC-Open29#
F430GT3-Mastercar#
F430GTC-Advance-01#
F430GTC-Advance-04#
F430GTC-Advanced-05#
F430GTC-Advanced-Livio#
F430GTC-Advanced-Tavano#
F430GTC-AF10-23#
F430GTC-AF10-29#
F430GTC-ART1#
F430GTC-ART2#
F430GTC-ASM#
F430GTC-Aurora#
F430GTC-Balthazard#
F430GTC-Durango#
F430GTC-EasyRace-02#
F430GTC-EdilCris-2#
F430GTC-EdilCris-3#
F430GTC-EdilCris6#
F430GTC-GPC#
F430GTC-GPC16#
F430GTC-GPC21#
F430GTC-LaTorre#
F430GTC-LMP#
F430GTC-MayolaCarol#
F430GTC-Megadrive#
F430GTC-MJC#
F430GTC-Motor-07#
F430GTC-Policand#
F430GTC-Ricci#
F430GTC-Sarafree#
F430GTC-Solieri#
F430GTC-Victory#
F430GTC-Villarroel#
F430GTS-WS09-56#
F430-Kawamura#
F430-Osona#
F430-RCA#
F430-SaraFree-03#
Also according to the same source there are 12 of those Ferrari 575 Maranello GTC cars, that nobody seems to remember
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Old 20 Apr 2011, 15:02 (Ref:2867021)   #18
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just one question, this year the aston martin dbrs9 still run with 1300kg as minimum weight?
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Those 109 F430s include cars that they don't know the chassisnumber of, all the F430GTC-"insertteamnamehere"
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Yep! Maybe I miscounted but I make 39 F430 GTs and 22 F430 GTCs with known chassis numbers in that list. I would assume many of the former were upgraded to GTC spec during their careers. Something around 60 chassis makes sense to me, surely a handful are missing from that list but 100+ seems to be far too many!
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Looking at this insane number of F430 GTs, I wonder how many 458 GT2s will be built. Will it be the same, gigantic legion???
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Looking at this insane number of F430 GTs, I wonder how many 458 GT2s will be built. Will it be the same, gigantic legion???
Probably not... with more and more series moving to GT3 the market should be a fair bit smaller today then when the 430 race car hit the tracks first...
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There's already a bunch of the GT3 Ferrari 458s in the Ferrari Challenge which just started in Italy, at Monza. Over 10.
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In addition to the four current Ford GT1s, Marc VDS still owns the original development car used in the 2009 FIA GT championship. But it's not fully up to current spec.
Same story with Nissan. Apparently SP were using the very first GT-R ever built for testing & PR-purposes last week @ Qatar - probably because their own cars didn't feel well after the crashfests of Zolder. And unlike the Ford, I believe it's pretty much up to spec.

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