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Old 25 Feb 2010, 09:38 (Ref:2640217)   #1
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Fantasy F1 2010 - entry thread


Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, welcome to this year’s Fantasy F1, with your new host, me. I am taking over from Sir Ralf of Fan this year despite having never taken part before, but luckily for you I know roughly what I’m doing anyway

As you know, F1 has seen some pretty big changes between the 2009 and 2010 seasons, which have given me license to make some changes this year. It’s not going to take rocket science as it only involves you only including one other thing in your entry

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The idea is you have to pick 2 drivers and a constructor within a budget of 100,000 (insert currency here). You don’t get any points for not spending under the budget. None of these can be from the same team - you can’t pick 2 drivers from the same team or a driver and the constructor of the same team.

However, there is a major change for this year. As you all know, the entry list has expanded from 10 teams to 13 (theoretically) for this season, so I’m taking the opportunity to expand the constructors section. You now have to pick an engine as well as a chassis for your team. This can be the same engine that's in the back of the constructor's car, and also does not have to clash with the drivers

The top 3 engine scores (excluding the points given out for engine failures) count. There will be a 5 point penalty for every engine failure in a race, and a further 10 point penalty if the engine limit is exceeded for a driver (i.e. they get grid penalties for changing engines)

To allow for this change, the constructor prices have been reduced (put it down to the global financial crisis or something)

Please use the following entry form to post entries:

Team name:
Constructor:
Engine:
Driver 1:
Driver 2:

Please include the prices as well

Scoring System
This is something I will also change as I have an unhealthy fascination with points systems. To bring FF1 inline with the recent changes in F1 and FF1 itself, I’m going to alter the system, with more points on offer, a different structure, and the addition of points for pole, fastest lap and laps led for drivers. Engines have their own system as well. Quite complex now but then you don’t have to do all the work

Drivers:
Win: 25 pts
2nd: 18
3rd: 15
High points finish (4th-6th): 10
Low points finish (7th-10th): 5
Non-scoring finish: 3
DNF: 0

Driver Bonuses:
Pole: 3
Fastest Lap: 3
Lead a Lap: 1
Most Laps Lead: 3
Points per positions gained/lost from grid slot: 2

Constructors:
Win: 10 pts
2nd: 8
3rd: 6
High points finish (4th-6th): 4
Low points finish (7th-10th): 2
Non-scoring finish: 1
Technical DNF: -3

Constructor Bonuses:
Pole: 3
Fastest Lap: 3

Engines:
Win: 5 pts
2nd: 4
3rd: 3
Points finish (4th-10th): 2
Non-scoring finish: 1
Engine failure: -5

Engine Bonuses
Pole: 1
Fastest Lap: 1

FAQs

I didn’t enter before the start of the season. Does this mean I now can’t take part?
You can enter whenever you like through the season. Just don’t expect points for the rounds you entered after. The deadline for each round is the start of Free Practice 1

Can I make any substitutions during the season?
You can make one free driver substitution during the season. You can make more than one change but it will cost you 15 points for every change after the first one. You cannot change constructors or engines

What happens if my driver is injured/killed/unable to participate in races due to legal reasons?
Automatically, you will receive points from that drivers’ replacement in his team, unless you request for a substitution. So, using an example from last year, if you picked Massa and he was injured and you don’t fancy the idea of Badoer or Fisichella picking up points for you instead, you would have to make a substitution. I believe this is a slight change from last year, as I believe in the past you would’ve continued to score no points until you made a change

What happens if a driver is injured/killed/unable to participate in the race due to legal reasons, and one of my drivers moves teams to replace him, thus clashing with the team I chose at the beginning, e.g. if I picked Fisichella and Ferrari last year?
Don’t worry about it

Who is in charge?
I am. That means I decide what happens if things go array, like disqualifications, shortened races, lightning strikes and so on. Even $100m fines and disqualifications from the constructors championship. And no, picking Webber will not gain extra bonus points. And call me James. That is my name

2010 F1 Entry List and Price List


Vodafone McLaren Mercedes (GB)
Constructor: McLaren - 30,000
Engine: Mercedes - 25,000
1) Jenson Button (GB) - 45,000
2) Lewis Hamilton (GB) - 50,000


Mercedes GP Petronas Formula 1 Team (Ger)
Constructor: Mercedes - 30,000
Engine: Mercedes - 25,000
3) Michael Schumacher (Ger) - 50,000
4) Nico Rosberg (Ger) - 40,000


Red Bull Racing (Aut)
Constructor: Red Bull - 30,000
Engine: Renault - 15,000
5) Sebastian Vettel (Ger) - 50,000
6) Mark Webber (Aus) - 45,000


Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro (Ita)
Constructor: Ferrari - 30,000
Engine: Ferrari - 20,000
7) Felipe Massa (Brz) - 45,000
8) Fernando Alonso (Esp) - 50,000


AT&T Williams (GB)
Constructor: Williams - 20,000
Engine: Cosworth - 10,000
9) Rubens Barrichello (Brz) - 25,000
10) Nico Hulkenberg (Ger) - 20,000


Renault F1 Team (Fra)
Constructor: Renault - 15,000
Engine: Renault - 15,000
11) Robert Kubica (Pol) - 25,000
12) Vitaly Petrov (Rus) - 12,000


Force India F1 Team (Ind)
Constructor: Force India - 12,000
Engine: Mercedes - 25,000
14) Adrian Sutil (Ger) - 20,000
15) Vitantonio Liuzzi (Ita) - 15,000


Scuderia Toro Rosso (Ita)
Constructor: Toro Rosso - 10,000
Engine: Ferrari - 20,000
16) Sebastien Buemi (Swz) - 15,000
17) Jaime Alguersuari (Esp) - 12,000


Lotus Racing (Mal)
Constructor: Lotus - 6,000
Engine: Cosworth - 10,000
18) Jarno Trulli (Ita) - 10,000
19) Heikki Kovalainen (Fin) - 8,000


Campos Meta 1 (Esp)
Constructor: Campos - 3,000
Engine: Cosworth - 10,000
20) TBA - 5,000
21) Bruno Senna (Brz) - 5,000


US F1 Team (USA)
Constructor: US F1 - 3,000
Engine: Cosworth - 10,000
22) Jose Maria Lopez (Arg) - 5,000
23) TBA - 5,000


Virgin Racing (GB)
Constructor: Virgin - 6,000
Engine: Cosworth - 10,000
24) Timo Glock (Ger) - 10,000
25) Lucas di Grassi (Brz) - 7,000


BMW Sauber F1 Team (Swz)
Constructor: Sauber - 15,000
Engine: Ferrari - 20,000
26) Pedro de la Rosa (Esp) - 20,000
27) Kamui Kobayashi (Jpn) - 20,000

Drivers in order of cost:

Lewis Hamilton - 50,000
Michael Schumacher - 50,000
Fernando Alonso - 50,000
Sebastian Vettel - 50,000
Jenson Button - 45,000
Felipe Massa -45,000
Mark Webber - 45,000
Nico Rosberg - 40,000
Rubens Barrichello - 25,000
Robert Kubica - 25,000
Nico Hulkenberg - 20,000
Adrian Sutil - 20,000
Pedro de la Rosa - 20,000
Kamui Kobayashi - 20,000
Vitantonio Liuzzi - 15,000
Sebastien Buemi - 15,000
Vitaly Petrov - 12,000
Jaime Alguersuari - 12,000
Jarno Trulli - 10,000
Timo Glock - 10,000
Heikki Kovalainen - 8,000
Lucas di Grassi - 7,000
Bruno Senna - 5,000
2nd Campos driver - 5,000
Jose Maria Lopez - 5,000
2nd US F1 driver - 5,000

Constructors in order of cost:

Mercedes - 30,000
Red Bull - 30,000
McLaren - 30,000
Ferrari - 30,000
Williams - 20,000
Renault - 15,000
Sauber - 15,000
Force India - 12,000
Toro Rosso - 10,000
Lotus - 6,000
Virgin - 6,000
Campos - 3,000
US F1 - 3,000

Engines in order of cost:

Mercedes - 25,000
Ferrari - 20,000
Renault - 15,000
Cosworth - 10,000

Don’t forget the drivers cannot be from the same team. They can also not be from one of the constructors

If entry list changes before or during the season, please await orders from Reichsfuhrer James

And finally, thanks to Ralf Fan for his assistance in setting up everything and for running this for the last couple of years

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My entry:

Team name: Glamorgan Motorsports
Constructor: Force India (12,000)
Engine: Ferrari (20,000)
Driver 1: Mark Webber (45,000)
Driver 2: Pedro de la Rosa (20,000)

I have already received Armco Bender’s entry (posted in the other thread)

Team name: Sheep Botherers
Constructor: Force India - 12,000
Engine:Mercedes - 25,000
Driver 1: Sebastian Vettel - 50,000
Driver 2:Timo Glock - 10,000
(97,000)
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Old 25 Feb 2010, 09:48 (Ref:2640222)   #2
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Old 25 Feb 2010, 14:04 (Ref:2640359)   #3
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Nicely done. I like the changes although I do worry about the calculations each round. You do remember you aren't getting paid, right?

Team name: RF Grand Prix Engineering
Constructor: Mclaren (30,000)
Engine: Cosworth (10,000)
Driver 1: Fernando Alonso (50,000)
Driver 2: Timo Glock (10,000)
(100,000)
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Old 25 Feb 2010, 14:42 (Ref:2640378)   #4
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Nicely done. I like the changes although I do worry about the calculations each round. You do remember you aren't getting paid, right?
It's OK. What I've got is a section on the Races page of the spreadsheet which works out the points for each race. This is what last year's Bahrain GP would look like:



The change of position points are calculated automatically depending on the number I put in to say how many places it's moved. The rest is put in, and it's totalled automatically

Then this will be transfered to the scoring sheet for each driver/constructor engine. This is just the drivers one - the other 2 are below that:



These are then automatically linked to the scores for each FF1 team:



There is then a separate standings page where the scores can be sorted into order:



It looks far worse than it actually is

This way I can just take screenshots from the spreadsheet to show the results instead of typing them all out again to post here
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Old 25 Feb 2010, 14:50 (Ref:2640382)   #5
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Old 25 Feb 2010, 14:55 (Ref:2640385)   #6
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The McLaren costs 30,000. Unfortunately that means you're 5,000 over-budget
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Apologies. I blame the pull out of my major sponser. Revised team:

Team name: USFarce
Constructor: McLaren (£ 30,000)
Engine: Renault (Eur 15,000)
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Old 25 Feb 2010, 15:25 (Ref:2640398)   #8
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Old 25 Feb 2010, 16:03 (Ref:2640409)   #10
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Constructor: Toro Rosso 10000
Engine: Mercedes 25000
Driver 1: Button 45000
Driver 2: Hulkenburg 20000

Is that ok? Couldn't quite understand what you wrote with this bit.

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This can be the same engine that's in the back of the constructor's car, and also does not have to clash with the drivers
Weren't sure whether this meant i could or couldn't have Button and Mercedes
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Is that ok? Couldn't quite understand what you wrote with this bit.



Weren't sure whether this meant i could or couldn't have Button and Mercedes
The engine doesn't have to clash with the driver choice, so yours is fine. Otherwise we'd never get anywhere

The only things that can clash are one driver with the other, or a driver and the constructor
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The engine doesn't have to clash with the driver choice, so yours is fine. Otherwise we'd never get anywhere

The only things that can clash are one driver with the other, or a driver and the constructor
Thanks

I thought that would be the case, just thought id clarify it
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Hulkenberg drives for Williams, so this is invalid
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Recap of the entry list so far (should help avoid people picking a team that has been picked already, although an extra component should limit that from happening this year)



Most popular drivers so far: Alonso and Hulkenberg
Most popular team: McLaren
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Constructor: Sauber (15,000)
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Driver 2: Vitantonio Liuzzi (15,000)

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