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Old 27 Mar 2005, 09:22 (Ref:1262752)   #1
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89/90 DTM Toyota Supra/Opel Kadett???

I forget which year, but either in '89 or '90, there was a Toyota Supra racing in the DTM. Who ran it? Any Toyota involvement? What happened to it? Was that where the DTM Toyota rumors originated from?

As well, I noticed Opel raced the Kadett in the DTM? Were they all Works entries? Did Opel introduce the Omega part way thru the season? Were any 1/43 DTM Kadetts made?

I'm asking all these questions b/c I'm watching the DTM reviews in German language though. Too bad I don't understand what they're saying. I think only the '94 DTM was available in the english language? Does anyone have english language recordings of the '95 DTM or '96 ITC??
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Old 27 Mar 2005, 10:17 (Ref:1262776)   #2
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I forget which year, but either in '89 or '90, there was a Toyota Supra racing in the DTM. Who ran it? Any Toyota involvement? What happened to it? Was that where the DTM Toyota rumors originated from?
It ran by Bemani and driven by Philipp Muller, in 1989 and 1990 and I think it was a private effort.

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As well, I noticed Opel raced the Kadett in the DTM? Were they all Works entries? Did Opel introduce the Omega part way thru the season? Were any 1/43 DTM Kadetts made?
Yeps, 1989 and any team too in 1990. i would say those teams had any kind of factory support certainly. Omega? If i remember correctly my DTM videos, 1990 was the first year for Opel Omega.
1/43 DTM Kadett? No idea.

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I'm asking all these questions b/c I'm watching the DTM reviews in German language though. Too bad I don't understand what they're saying. I think only the '94 DTM was available in the english language? Does anyone have english language recordings of the '95 DTM or '96 ITC??
No idea either.
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Old 27 Mar 2005, 10:25 (Ref:1262780)   #3
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Kmchow from what I remember, the Toyota's where run by a swiss tuning firm Bemani and from memory came from the ETCC.
The opels were run by Irmscher one of the drivers was Markus Oestriech (sp?) cant remember who was driving the other car.
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Old 27 Mar 2005, 10:58 (Ref:1262807)   #4
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The opels were run by Irmscher one of the drivers was Markus Oestriech (sp?) cant remember who was driving the other car.
Peter Oberndorfer in 89 (Volker Strycek drove Kadett with other team i believe).
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I remember one East-German driver getting a Kadett on one race, and he rolled it, anyone remember where and who?
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Old 27 Mar 2005, 17:30 (Ref:1263020)   #6
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1:43 Kadett..

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Old 28 Mar 2005, 09:16 (Ref:1263375)   #7
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I remember one East-German driver getting a Kadett on one race, and he rolled it, anyone remember where and who?
The only non-regulars who drove Kadetts in 89/90 K Thaler at the Nurburging and S Haider at Hockenheim (the final two rounds of the season), but they both appear to have finished the races and i'm not sure if they were East German
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There was also K. Gohlke at the the 1990 final Nurburgring round.
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I remember one East-German driver getting a Kadett on one race, and he rolled it, anyone remember where and who?

The place was Avus in Berlin IIRC, can't remember his name at the moment. And yes, he was EG.
Think I have something lying around about that, finding it is another thing.
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I'm asking all these questions b/c I'm watching the DTM reviews in German language though. Too bad I don't understand what they're saying. I think only the '94 DTM was available in the english language? Does anyone have english language recordings of the '95 DTM or '96 ITC??
Try www.dukevideo.com for GTCC races, AFAIK, in English. From the early 90s though.

I've got the 1993 DTM review and it's in English.
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