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Much more satisfying than watching some joker on softs overtake another car on hard tyres - is that what the fans/sponsors want But making each identical to the other is a good formula for racing??? |
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thats not what tends to happen, the cars string out and the racing becomes processional, its boring, thats why every major series in the world has pit stops
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There is a difference between cars not being able to overtake and the car in front being faster. I am yet to understand how a pit stop aids overtaking or entertainment? Some series use pit stops as distraction from a lack of competition on track - almost bring resigned to the fact that their on track product is flawed - is this the case with V8SA? |
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pit stops aid overtaking and entertainment by bring a new element into racing, strategy. ist great and it does the opposite to dumbing down racing it makes it smarter, but i acknowledge some struggle with this no top levell series has pits stop as entertainment, if a series does its because its a stepping stone to longer races |
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What would you prefer - winning on the track or in the pits? |
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Just to be clear, what you and F1Champ are suggesting is the Bathurst is a poor quality race and we should shorten it to 6 or short sprint races without put stops? So that it can be more "pure"
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Bathurst and other endurance races are alot different from standard championship rounds. That said - hasnt Bathurst descended into 6 or 7 sprint races broken up by Safety cars over the last 10 years |
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why are they different? havent we tried to achieve every race as an endurance race, or at least a mini enduro? races typically run for 1 and half to 2 and half hours now
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Long way to go for that. |
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Got It. Firstly give 20 points for pole, 20 points for fastest lap, and 20 points for leading a lap. That would stop double stacking.
Then again why doesnt tc get the tracks to make the pits bigger so one pit bay each. How comes there is any problem at Bathurst when there are 36 Garages, 28 Cars New pit complex featuring: 36, 8m x 15m deep ground level pit garages (approx four times size of old pit garages). Features three phase power, communications, secured Last edited by Downoz; 22 Jul 2012 at 11:21. |
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Believe pit bays are more around cost to the teams. twice as many rattle guns/booms/air/fuel gantries/crew etc etc |
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More races, even rounds in a series, typicaly lessens the value of a win.
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Do you know why softer compounds existed in the first place? It is to gain a performance advantage over another tyre manufactuer. Tyres are supposed to be durable. 20+ years ago softer compound tyres that were made were actually a balance of performance and durablility. That was a challenge for tyre makers, therefore you could note the best maker. Soft compund tyres with a single supplier is bull**** motorsport. You see it in V8s and F1, a joke. Quote:
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The reason why people wouldn't go to these meets and go to the pros, is because they recognise the pros and are unfamiliar with amateur competition. That's the case with any sport. I'm not sure why you made the comparison, as though their in competition with each other, they're actually not. It's the same reason, in the opposite way, I go to international cricket but not district competition. Quote:
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