2012 Silly Season - Page 2

**GTRMagic** · 17 May 2011, 07:07 (Ref:2881460)

I wouldnt think a list is appropriate just yet... individual driver moves seem to be interesting because they all need to land somewhere just to keep the petrol in their Learjets...

But with the $4m soon to be burning a hole in various team owners' pockets, it may not be beyond the realms of possibility that it is now time to cash out of the sport for some teams and individuals...

Especially when the REC income to teams effectively halves next season under the new ownership...

We shall see...

F J Nedos · 17 May 2011, 11:43 (Ref:2881586)

Yes but they might need the extra 4 mill to see them through extra rounds...

Axeman444 · 17 May 2011, 23:55 (Ref:2881908)

or teams with cash might not need pay drivers for a season or 2, increasing performance, thus increasing exposure, thus increasing sponsorship, thus increasing funding...

**GTRMagic** · 18 May 2011, 09:14 (Ref:2882032)

... or they may just have ordered that new boat...

Micklegend · 18 May 2011, 11:49 (Ref:2882091)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Axeman444

or teams with cash might not need pay drivers for a season or 2, increasing performance, thus increasing exposure, thus increasing sponsorship, thus increasing funding...

Good point, but are there any true level 1 V8 drivers out there without a gig because they cant bring any money with them, or more to the point, would be marketable enough over a period of 3 years or so to cover the team until the REC income improves or the current windfall dries up?

Im interested in the issue of who may cash in their chips (Larry, Brighty,Charlie) or who may be waiting to buy back in (Cruickshank) or buy another REC (Webb, Fiore).

Driver TBA · 18 May 2011, 20:02 (Ref:2882306)

How about a list (woops, theres that word!). How about a post containing the names of drivers who are definitely out of contract at years end?

TSR · 19 May 2011, 06:14 (Ref:2882463)

Garth TANDER to Kelly Racing in 2012 replace Todd Kelly?

JC Ohope · 19 May 2011, 07:14 (Ref:2882480)

Quote:

Originally Posted by TSR

Garth TANDER to Kelly Racing in 2012 replace Todd Kelly?

I can't see GT taking a massive step back both in the car he'd be driving & the pay cut he'd no doubt have to take if he went from HRT to KR.

I guess it really depends how loyal to Holden GT is (assuming he doesn't sign again with HRT, which I still think is pretty likely with his current performance) but if he does leave I wonder if he'd go to a team like SBR? Alex Davison's contract is up for renewal this year and SBR is probably just as capable (if not more capable) than FPR of getting a championship win.

Anyway, I'll take the dangerous step of posting a list of cars that definitely have contracts that expire this year:

#2 - Garth Tander
#4 - Alex Davison
#33 - Lee Holdsworth
#39 - Russell Ingall
#55 - Paul Dumbrell

Any others that are definitely open?

The next few are ones that I'd guess will be open but I haven't read when the contracts expire etc.

#7 - Todd Kelly (Said he'd retire this year if he doesn't do well, it hasn't been a great start....)
#11 - Greg Murphy (I'm assuming KR only has a one year contract?)
#16 - David Reynolds (Same reasoning as above)
#49 - Steve Owen (I can't imagine PMM having more than a 1 year contract there)

I can't think of any other REC's that are likely to be free?

peckstar · 19 May 2011, 07:32 (Ref:2882491)

would at least one spot at BJR and maybe 3 be up for grans as well?

is slade locked in for another year also?

and moff, was he a multi year contract?

rustyinsthoz · 19 May 2011, 08:15 (Ref:2882503)

Only 2 teams worth moving to for Tander. T8 or FPR. FPR would be a big risk. But maybe Tander could be the one to help FPR get their **** together.

fomoco · 19 May 2011, 09:17 (Ref:2882517)

Quote:

Originally Posted by rustyinsthoz

Only 2 teams worth moving to for Tander. T8 or FPR. FPR would be a big risk. But maybe Tander could be the one to help FPR get their **** together.

I wouldn't discount Stone Brothers, maybe Garth is what they need, plus he would be able to aasist in further development of the Gis. SBR with two cars back at the pointy end of the pack.

peckstar · 19 May 2011, 10:07 (Ref:2882535)

Im sorry, i cant barrack for Garth in a ford, anyone who drove as the lead driver for Holden for so many years will struggle to get my support, Never really warmed to lowndes and he has heaps more to like

Smokey Retirement · 19 May 2011, 10:23 (Ref:2882542)

As was mentioned above, if GT would have to take a pay cut to got to KR, then surely he'd be getting one if he was to go to SBR. Cant see SBR being more flush with cash than the Kellys. Im pretty confident that Jack pays more sponsor dollars than SP or Irwin.

If GT was to leave, and some of the supposed rumours of some team owners taking the money and running comes true, I can see TanderSport getting a look in...

Micklegend · 19 May 2011, 12:46 (Ref:2882611)

any takers for Alex to the BottleO car (join up the brothers) and then see SBR blood Scott McLaughlin in the #4? Seems they took on the Giz early and I reckon Scott will be a good buy for the long haul. Would also compliment Giz and Slade as a group of young up and comers.

While Giz and Slade are getting good results and showing enthusiasm, a younger guy just needs miles in the category, enough to see him ready to fly when COTF comes in. I dont see them trying to develop the hell out of the current chassis anymore.

GT would never drive a Ford, I see Reynolds stepping up to the #7 and a then the Kellys putting David Sera into the Stratco car next year. Money isnt the issue, he is young and marketable and jumping into the aussies this weekend, so they may as well also get some miles under his belt while they can.

Axeman444 · 19 May 2011, 23:49 (Ref:2882885)

isn't Moff only on a single year contract?

**GTRMagic** · 20 May 2011, 00:25 (Ref:2882891)

At the risk of starting a list..

Drivers with a deal finishing this year (not withstanding any contractual options the team or the driver may have...)

#2 G.Tander
#4 A.Davison
#8 J.Bright
#11 G.Murphy
#14 J.Bargwanna
#16 D.Reynolds
#18 J.Moffat
#21 K.Reindler
#30 W.Luff
#34 M.Caruso
#39 R.Ingall
#47 T.Slade
#49 S.Owen
#55 P.Dumbrell (If he stops his seat will be vacant..)
#61 F.Coulthard

Thats a goodly proportion of the field who might move around somewhere new and interesting. You might be game in doing this before COTF.. and before the ownership of a few RECs isnt known.

What is also interesting might be sponsorships up at the end of the year.

#4 Irwin Tools
#18 Norton
#33 & #34 Fujitsu

Any others?

Axeman444 · 20 May 2011, 01:42 (Ref:2882911)

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Any others?

Lethal

prediction for this thread is to be a massive one, given the number of potential movements this year compared to last, and the 2011 thread has passed 1400 posts!

many comment whether GT will move to somewhere that gives him as good a car and monetary benefits. you are assuming he has the choice of staying

JC Ohope · 20 May 2011, 01:50 (Ref:2882916)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Axeman444

many comment whether GT will move to somewhere that gives him as good a car and monetary benefits. you are assuming he has the choice of staying

Surely HRT wouldn't be stupid enough not to want to re-employ GT when he's miles ahead of their million dollar baby and actually looks like he could challenge for the championship this year?

Axeman444 · 20 May 2011, 02:37 (Ref:2882920)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JC Ohope

Surely HRT wouldn't be stupid enough not to want to re-employ GT when he's miles ahead of their million dollar baby and actually looks like he could challenge for the championship this year?

true, was just an observation

**GTRMagic** · 20 May 2011, 02:55 (Ref:2882922)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Axeman444

Lethal

Didnt Mr Rogers extend Mr Holdsworth's deal to the end of 2012?

Axeman444 · 20 May 2011, 05:01 (Ref:2882935)

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Didnt Mr Rogers extend Mr Holdsworth's deal to the end of 2012?

not as of 2 weeks ago...

http://www.speedcafe.com.au/2011/05/...riving-future/

**GTRMagic** · 20 May 2011, 06:52 (Ref:2882949)

Oakely Doakely... time to retune the non-list...

Drivers with a deal finishing this year (not withstanding any contractual options the team or the driver may have...)

#2 G.Tander
#4 A.Davison
#8 J.Bright
#11 G.Murphy
#14 J.Bargwanna
#16 D.Reynolds
#18 J.Moffat
#21 K.Reindler
#30 W.Luff
#33 L.Holdsworth
#34 M.Caruso
#39 R.Ingall
#47 T.Slade
#49 S.Owen
#55 P.Dumbrell (If he stops his seat will be vacant..)
#61 F.Coulthard

Sponsors Up For Renewal

#4 Irwin Tools
#11 Pepsi Max
#18 Norton
#33 & #34 Fujitsu

Any other adjustments?

Chatters · 20 May 2011, 07:52 (Ref:2882969)

How sure are we of #16's Stratco sponsorship?

**GTRMagic** · 20 May 2011, 22:30 (Ref:2883297)

Supercheap Out of Contract this year!

Where to for the Ingall/SuperCheap Package?

**GTRMagic** · 20 May 2011, 22:32 (Ref:2883298)

Drivers Needing 2012 deals

#2 G.Tander
#4 A.Davison
#8 J.Bright
#11 G.Murphy
#14 J.Bargwanna
#16 D.Reynolds
#18 J.Moffat
#21 K.Reindler
#30 W.Luff
#33 L.Holdsworth
#34 M.Caruso
#39 R.Ingall
#47 T.Slade
#49 S.Owen
#55 P.Dumbrell (If he stops his seat will be vacant..)
#61 F.Coulthard

Sponsors Up For Renewal

#4 Irwin Tools
#11 Pepsi Max
#16 Stratco
#18 Norton
#33 & #34 Fujitsu
#39 SuperCheap Auto

Any other adjustments?

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