Blancpain endurance series 2012 - Page 51

Speed-King · 27 Sep 2012, 20:11 (Ref:3142703)

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Originally Posted by Mike Hedlund

This might be the wrong place to post this, but does anyone have an idea what the seasonal budget is for a seat in a BES Pro-Am car?

-mike

No idea about BES, but ADAC GT-Masters (8 race weekends, two one hour sprints each) comes in a bit over half a million Euros per car. BES has less race weekends, but longer races and the 24h race at Spa is of course a biggy.

Generally, though, racing seems to be a lot less expensive in Europe than in the US.

NaBUru38 · 27 Sep 2012, 21:09 (Ref:3142719)

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Originally Posted by urdragon

In add, Somwhere in EI says 1000 Km of Nurburgring (Ratel discards Nordchleife for GT3 not safe for there)

It's tough to fill 25km of track with GT3 cars. Now, they could invite the Porsche 911 GT3 Cup cars.

GT3.14 · 27 Sep 2012, 22:09 (Ref:3142743)

I thought the reason the Nordschleife is not FIA approved because there are not enough marshals' posts and they are spread too far apart, making emergency response times an issue.

Coach Ep · 27 Sep 2012, 23:01 (Ref:3142756)

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Originally Posted by GT3.14

I thought the reason the Nordschleife is not FIA approved because there are not enough marshals' posts and they are spread too far apart, making emergency response times an issue.

I don´t have the exact numbers but that´s incorrect, there are enough marshal posts all around, emergency response is done by fast Audi´s (several available at strategic spots around the track), backed up by the ONS Staffel cars (usually Jeeps or sort-a-like).

There might be a safety concern however with the lack of run off area - almost everywhere. But then again, quite a few GT3 cars (and even GT2 cars in previous years) race in the 24H.

urdragon · 28 Sep 2012, 00:03 (Ref:3142767)

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Originally Posted by Coach Ep

There might be a safety concern however with the lack of run off area - almost everywhere.

As Paul Ricard, More or less ...

GTfour · 29 Sep 2012, 00:30 (Ref:3143484)

Just saw a long recap of the Nurburgring race. What a fantastic race, on a crackin' track with a great mix of topshelf GT cars.

Sad for McLaren though that they're still far away from the front...

rich07 · 29 Sep 2012, 03:22 (Ref:3143510)

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Originally Posted by Coach Ep

There might be a safety concern however with the lack of run off area - almost everywhere. But then again, quite a few GT3 cars (and even GT2 cars in previous years) race in the 24H.

Yeah I dont buy the safety excuse at all. If VLN can do it and do it succesfully as safety goes then BES should be able to do it. Im guessing the cost is the real issue here.

MitchZ06 · 29 Sep 2012, 04:37 (Ref:3143540)

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Originally Posted by GTfour

Sad for McLaren though that they're still far away from the front...

Didn't the #9 Gulf McLaren lead for part of the race when the Bell was behind the wheel? They're not far off, just need an all pro team to show what it can do...

Speed-King · 29 Sep 2012, 06:43 (Ref:3143575)

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Originally Posted by rich07

Yeah I dont buy the safety excuse at all. If VLN can do it and do it succesfully as safety goes then BES should be able to do it. Im guessing the cost is the real issue here.

The real problems are production costs (takes a ton of cameras and at least one helicopter) to cover a race at the Nordschleife) and getting a full field of cars on the track. Even a 50 or 60 car field would come up woefully short compared to the 150-200 cars VLN puts on the track. And the GT3s wouldn't even spread that much, so you'd have lots and lots of downtime for the spectators around the track.

urdragon · 29 Sep 2012, 09:40 (Ref:3143627)

Easy, guess the LFA Nordchleife package 7:14 = 434 sec time (Slower than a GT3 probably) and divide it by 60 cars grid. A car every 7,3 seconds.

Speed-King · 29 Sep 2012, 10:23 (Ref:3143636)

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Originally Posted by urdragon

Easy, guess the LFA Nordchleife package 7:14 = 434 sec time (Slower than a GT3 probably) and divide it by 60 cars grid. A car every 7,3 seconds.

The Nordschleife doesn't have pits on its own, so they'd have to include the GP-loop, so times would probably be at around 8:10 or something thereabouts.

But of course, cars aren't spread out evenly from the start. I'd take quite a while until the field begins to fill the track. (And then, who cares about the backmarkers anyway? The real issue is that you'll only see the leaders 40 or so times...

Juntos · 2 Oct 2012, 16:46 (Ref:3145294)

Is it an one-tyre brand series or is it open to any brand?

NaBUru38 · 3 Oct 2012, 01:53 (Ref:3145487)

Michelin is a partner, but there is manufacturer competition:

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Only customer racing tyres, regularly sold and registered by SRO GT Bureau will be accepted. Only one type (specification and dimensions) of slick tyre and one type of rain tyre will be registered per car. The tyre manufacturer must deliver to SRO one set of tyres per supplied size which will be kept as a reference. The list of the approved tyres specification/dimensions will be published by SRO at the latest 2 weeks prior to the first Event.

urdragon · 4 Oct 2012, 17:02 (Ref:3146179)

http://www.endurance-info.com/version2/actualite-endurance-13714.html

Seems Mclaren doesn't trust much BES Mclaren teams, is just Hexis arriving and Parente comes with the pack. Good pro trio. And may be the ones ruling GTE in a pair of years according Mclaren confide in Hexis.

NaBUru38 · 9 Oct 2012, 18:58 (Ref:3148988)

So, we know the 2013 Blancpain Endurance Series calendar:

14th April - Monza
2nd June - Silverstone
30th June - Paul Ricard
27th July - Spa 24 Hours
22nd Sept - Nürburgring 1000 km

Motorsport published the provisional GT Sprint World Series calendar:

February 16 - Abu Dhabi
March 31 - Nogaro
April 28 - Zolder
May 12 - Germany TBD
July 14 - Zandvoort
August 18 - Slovakiaring

Seventh race TBD (perhaps Britain, Russia, India?)

urdragon · 9 Oct 2012, 19:43 (Ref:3149007)

BES calendar is impressive, it should be receiving TONS of entries.

rich07 · 10 Oct 2012, 09:32 (Ref:3149274)

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Originally Posted by urdragon

http://www.endurance-info.com/version2/actualite-endurance-13714.html

Seems Mclaren doesn't trust much BES Mclaren teams, is just Hexis arriving and Parente comes with the pack. Good pro trio. And may be the ones ruling GTE in a pair of years according Mclaren confide in Hexis.

Great to see Hexis do this race, hope they do well and they dont have car issues because that is one very strong lineup in the car and would definitely be a candidate for the win-if the car doesnt let them down...Maybe its a toe in the water if they decide to do BES next year.

MitchZ06 · 10 Oct 2012, 09:35 (Ref:3149278)

What'd I say? Hexis will most definitely be one of McLaren's 'factory' GTE teams...

rich07 · 10 Oct 2012, 09:50 (Ref:3149284)

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Originally Posted by MitchZ06

What'd I say? Hexis will most definitely be one of McLaren's 'factory' GTE teams...

That GTE programme probably wont get into its stride until 2014 though.

Hexis make a good fit though, they're very professional with a strong driver lineup and have been running the GT3 car this year if that counts for anything. Hoping they would have more success with the GTE then the GT3.

urdragon · 10 Oct 2012, 11:45 (Ref:3149357)

Anyone knows what happened to the GT-R? Nissan GT academy.

BES Navarra entry list

Mt. Lynx · 10 Oct 2012, 11:52 (Ref:3149360)

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Originally Posted by urdragon

Anyone knows what happened to the GT-R? Nissan GT academy.

BES Navarra entry list

I've been wondering the same. They've been missing from ADAC GT Masters aswell.
Dev maybe? Like the Emil Frey Jaguar?

SpikerJack · 11 Oct 2012, 08:18 (Ref:3149804)

BES calendar is perfect.. I think this is the real 2013 fia gt championship.. Maybe with 1-2 more races and more pro entries it would be perfect.. Why they don't open it to GTE?

rich07 · 11 Oct 2012, 10:13 (Ref:3149869)

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Originally Posted by SpikerJack

BES calendar is perfect.. I think this is the real 2013 fia gt championship.. Maybe with 1-2 more races and more pro entries it would be perfect.. Why they don't open it to GTE?

Because GT3 has enough cars to fill the grid without opening it up to a class which may not get many competitors. There are much more GT3 cars out there then GTE cars at the moment and the variety is much more varied then Ferrari and Porsche with the odd Aston.

urdragon · 11 Oct 2012, 10:38 (Ref:3149876)

Also, Where have the aston martin Vantage V12 GT3 have gone?? They could represent Aston Martin. The GT3 class can cover all GTE brands by now, the only thing that matters is where AM,Nissan and Corvette have gone, that aren't in BES.

urdragon · 11 Oct 2012, 13:45 (Ref:3149974)

Audi to run a third car:

http://www.endurance-info.com/version2/news-focus-13839.html

Frank Stippler-Oliver Jarvis-Filipe Albuquerque, seems they want other teams championship, some teams race at other league.

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