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Old 26 Mar 2008, 13:16 (Ref:2162027)   #101
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Will F2.0 Asia (I believe they don't (or are allowed to) use Renault name, just like FRV6 Eurocup -> FV6 Asia) teams run on Michelin rubber and AFR teams on Kumho?
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Old 27 Mar 2008, 01:07 (Ref:2162633)   #102
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AFR used Kumho at Zhuhai in their first race. AFOS has always partnered with Michelin and I believe FR 2.0 will be running on Michelin, too.
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Old 28 Mar 2008, 05:04 (Ref:2163574)   #103
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michelin is official tyres of formula renault 2.0 and i cant understand why frd was racing kumhos. end of the week and afos is silent. i fear the wrost.
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Old 28 Mar 2008, 05:41 (Ref:2163587)   #104
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funny as the same story happened in Mexican Formula Renault 2.0 , 2 championships are now running

-Panam GP Series with Michelin Tyres
-LATAM Challenge Series with Kuhmo Tyres

both championships are running in Central America (Mexico,Guatemala,...)

I guess the reason why some series run Kuhmo Tyres is financial reason
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Old 28 Mar 2008, 15:37 (Ref:2163933)   #105
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funny as the same story happened in Mexican Formula Renault 2.0 , 2 championships are now running

-Panam GP Series with Michelin Tyres
-LATAM Challenge Series with Kuhmo Tyres

both championships are running in Central America (Mexico,Guatemala,...)

I guess the reason why some series run Kuhmo Tyres is financial reason
...is the mexican version of IRL/CCWS split...

originaly Panam GP series start to use Kuhmo for financial reason...cheaper than Michelins, once the split came up at the end of last year, one of the team owners that separate from Panam GP, that was the Kuhmo contact and provider to the series well...took the tires and the sponsorship to the newly formed FR series and Panam GP guys have to go back to michelin's, even so, two weeks ago at the A1GP weekend, some Panam GP teams use avaliable Kuhmos in their stocks...
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Old 29 Mar 2008, 08:50 (Ref:2164345)   #106
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sound like AFOS suffering in registers championship to FIA.....
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Old 30 Mar 2008, 05:00 (Ref:2164953)   #107
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why does they need to register in fia? its a regional series.

heard yesterday in superbikes weekend at zic renault sport discovered that frd was seling fake parts of tatus to some teams and using on their cars for training.
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Old 30 Mar 2008, 06:27 (Ref:2164970)   #108
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why does they need to register in fia? its a regional series.
why they have not to register ?Asian Supercar need to do so,indeed.
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Old 30 Mar 2008, 07:39 (Ref:2164996)   #109
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it dont make sense for me. but you know it is the reason for the series not been annaunced yet?
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Old 30 Mar 2008, 07:58 (Ref:2165002)   #110
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it dont make sense for me. but you know it is the reason for the series not been annaunced yet?
may be is may be not,anyway from what I heard on one of reason is they can't register into FIA's calander,which ASCC already successed.Another reason you may guess it by logical........
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Old 30 Mar 2008, 08:28 (Ref:2165009)   #111
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still 3 weeks to go before the first race at Shanghai

Any entry list yet? Any new team join the Serie?
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Old 31 Mar 2008, 02:05 (Ref:2165757)   #112
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If Renault Sport doen not give a clear answer on Jim Kato's fact it means they are feed undertable by FRD that's the only real explanation. Facts are clear in in front of the evidence. FRD has a contract with RS expiring at the end of the year, after discoveriring many evident fact of the unfair way to manage AFR by FRD they are still closing their eyes. Teams are sick and tired of this situation. I think that if FRD should pubblically announce their trick on Kato's engines and this will help to calm the tension in the Asian Formula Renault
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Old 1 Apr 2008, 01:29 (Ref:2166616)   #113
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why does they need to register in fia? its a regional series.
All international (even regional) motorsport championships must be registered with the FIA. Basically just apply through an ASN and pay a fee. In FRD's case, they register through FASC (China). In AFOS case, they apply through AAM (Malaysia).
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Old 4 Apr 2008, 08:25 (Ref:2169287)   #114
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because of serval venue and event conflict provisional calander of FR2.0 Asia has change a lot.opening race will be delayed to May in Sepang as april CFO event has a big storm.Zhuhai won't be in calander and they may joining some AFOS event as replacements.
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Old 5 Apr 2008, 02:32 (Ref:2169990)   #115
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shanghai race was canned and beijing left the calendar but thai, philipines and indonesia will get races. it will look more asian than never!
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Old 5 Apr 2008, 06:49 (Ref:2170035)   #116
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and it will look more expensive than ever as well ... i do not think that teams who enter Asian Formula Renault 2000 , are really looking for a real Asian Championship with races in plenty of asian countries. I think what they want is to have theirs cars as available as possible to rent them for testing .

More the cars will have to travel and less they will be available due to transport in container and customs clearance procedure...

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Old 5 Apr 2008, 06:59 (Ref:2170038)   #117
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and it will look more expensive than ever as well ... i do not think that teams who enter Asian Formula Renault 2000 , are really looking for a real Asian Championship with races in plenty of asian countries. I think what they want is to have theirs cars as available as possible to rent them for testing .

More the cars will have to travel and less they will be available due to transport in container and customs clearance procedure...
as what I heard travel fee to Malay is eventually cheaper than Shanghai,if you use Zhuhai as starting point.displacement is one of reason,and Chinese customs isn't friendly to goodies(automotive at least).Zhuhai Custom used to block all the cars 'immigrant' for half an year in 2001,that makes Zhuhai circuit nearly 'die'.
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Old 5 Apr 2008, 08:23 (Ref:2170073)   #118
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ok but if you consider that almost all the teams are based at Zhuhai then it makes more sense to stay in China

There is as well Goldenport and Chengdu that can be used

well that was just my point of view , lets see what happen i am definitly positive to a strong Asian Formula Renault Championship with teams coming from anywhere in Asia

Even more when you see the situation of the FBMW Pacific,poor grids

Asia need an entry level single seater serie and the FR2000 is probably the best car for it
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Old 6 Apr 2008, 03:58 (Ref:2170839)   #119
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goldenport circuit was managed by a corrupt organization. chengdu is part of afos series calendar and in my point of view its good the teams go there. new track and no under the mafia control. renault sport is being manipulated by vested interests in asia and asia needs serious organisations to be on the europe or usa level in the next ten years. afos is sucess in asia and formula renault needs to improve. a moral mind will not work well in asia today but in the future it has.
meta: watta makes you no belief on afos series?
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Old 6 Apr 2008, 07:52 (Ref:2170890)   #120
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just the increasment of the costs with some long travels

I guess young "European " drivers , they come to race in Asia becasue they can get a lot of miles for a small amount of money compare to Europe

So IMHO you need to have the cars has much available as it is possible , to offer test to this drivers

When the cars are in the containers , teams do not generate any money with them

I do not have anything against AFOS , i am just thinking there is no point doing a championship that will cost as much as some series in Europe because it will loose the main interest that has the Formula Renault 2000 in Asia: the Budget
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Old 7 Apr 2008, 07:42 (Ref:2171950)   #121
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monkeyhead told yu that is cheaper to go to malay than to race in shanghai. the increasment of the costs with some long travels you talk about is not real. you havent a clear vision on chinese customs. customs isn't friendly to goodies and the money they suck from racing teams is big. many teams in china they have their cars register in macau and if some cars are in containers the big teams (art and m3) have t-cars in zhuhai and shangahi.
yesterday heard like a fr team from europe is coming in.the interest in asia is growing.
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Old 7 Apr 2008, 08:08 (Ref:2171976)   #122
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Any more information about this new team?
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Old 11 Apr 2008, 07:45 (Ref:2175032)   #123
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Old 11 Apr 2008, 13:23 (Ref:2175262)   #124
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Old 14 Apr 2008, 07:09 (Ref:2176863)   #125
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no idea. i hear from a team member but he doesnt know
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