Race stoppages - are they all necessary? (plus a bit of CSCC, Brands Hatch)

[GORDON STREETER]

Originally Posted by jamesholland

Re. 750MC Brands - I can't have been at the same meeting. On Saturday races 2, 3 and 4 were all red flagged. Mine wasn't restarted as we had completed 7 out of 13 laps.

You wasn't at the same meeting. If you look at my post it was Sunday

[Tim Falce]

Originally Posted by jamesholland

Re. 750MC Brands - I can't have been at the same meeting. On Saturday races 2, 3 and 4 were all red flagged. Mine wasn't restarted as we had completed 7 out of 13 laps.

I don't know about the other races as I didn't watch any but the SRGT race was stopped with 7 minutes to go out of a 30 minute race. They re-started it but knocked it down to 6 minutes plus a lap.
I suppose time is the factor as they managed the full meeting yesterday and were done by 5.30pm.

[jamesholland]

Seems the SRGT boys got the better deal.

It is quite ironic that there were 3 red flags in succession as we were told that the "grab" would be in operation to minimise stoppages.

[Al Weyman]

OK maybe £205 for 10 laps is correct but as they only had 4 then surely they should be rebated 6 laps worth at £20.50 a lap i.e. £123. I know the track owners and clubs cannot be held responsible for the weather and these things happen but as many (read most I think our race was the only one to go the distance or at least up till that time and we were race 7) races were cut short then surely they had enough time for a restart after just 4 laps of a 10 lap race. If as in the case of the other races it had gone 6 laps then no case to answer and fair enough but surely after 4 laps that cannot be right.

[Tim Falce]

Originally Posted by jamesholland

Seems the SRGT boys got the better deal.

It is quite ironic that there were 3 red flags in succession as we were told that the "grab" would be in operation to minimise stoppages.

Maybe they were trying to give something back after our two abandoned races earlier this year.

[Bryan Degerlund]

Originally Posted by jamesholland

Seems the SRGT boys got the better deal.

It is quite ironic that there were 3 red flags in succession as we were told that the "grab" would be in operation to minimise stoppages.

AFAIK the "snatch vehicle" was only available for Paddock Hill (between posts 3 and 4), without it there would have been another 3 or 4 red flags.

The SRGT boys were over half distance when the red flag was given. With any other club it would have been finish there and then.

[rbm]

snatch wouldn't have helped in our race James as a Ambulance was required.

but as you say as we had only just passed 1/2 distance.

[Ian Sowman]

Originally Posted by Al Weyman

OK maybe £205 for 10 laps is correct but as they only had 4 then surely they should be rebated 6 laps worth at £20.50 a lap i.e. £123.

That's just not financially viable is it, though?

Two things:

When you enter a race meeting you know that precisely what you have described can happen - it is a risk you take in that knowledge.

In any case, your 'rebate' doesn't take account of the time spent qualifying, and the down time following your races. If you *were* going to apply that you'd probably find you might get 10 minutes out of 55 (for a typical qually/race set up) back - maybe £35.

[Eddy V]

Originally Posted by jamesholland

Mine wasn't restarted as we had completed 7 out of 13 laps.

A real shame James, as it was a good race, but according to a little note a made in my paperwork it was stopped with 3' + 1 lap to go.
IF I am correct, how do they restart something like that?
But did I wish it had gone on for a while longer.

[Al Weyman]

Originally Posted by Ian Sowman

That's just not financially viable is it, though?

Two things:

When you enter a race meeting you know that precisely what you have described can happen - it is a risk you take in that knowledge.

In any case, your 'rebate' doesn't take account of the time spent qualifying, and the down time following your races. If you *were* going to apply that you'd probably find you might get 10 minutes out of 55 (for a typical qually/race set up) back - maybe £35.

It was a tounge in cheek response to the post commenting on the rate for 17 cars entered, I know its unviable and did say as much but I still think it should have been restarted or a safety car deployed thats the real point.