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Old 30 Dec 2008, 21:49 (Ref:2363017)   #46
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@75TB:

It's the Kuno Schar car that's referred to as chassisnr 029 in a previous post. Bob v/d Sluis' car has the 026 number. Even that is remarkable taking into account the 25 batch which is often mentioned in several historical data/articles.

So I'm also very curious if someone can clarify this. I'm also very interested if someone can tell us more about the 75 Evoluzione Group A cars that were used in the Italian hill climbing and rallys.
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Old 31 Dec 2008, 15:06 (Ref:2363355)   #47
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Posted by 75evo : It's the Kuno Schar car that's referred to as chassisnr 029 in a previous post. Bob v/d Sluis' car has the 026 number. Even that is remarkable taking into account the 25 batch which is often mentioned in several historical data/articles.
Only in the often quoted article "The 75 : A real racing family" the production number 25 is mentioned. BUT the article says : 'until now there have been 25 chassis' so it is not the definite production number.

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http://www.berlinasportivo.com/magaz.../racing75s.php
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Old 31 Dec 2008, 17:15 (Ref:2363431)   #48
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The article would be written in around 1990 (my guess, which would mean the 75 was still in use as Alfa Romeos main choice of car for the CIVT for another two years.
Just remembered that the 155 Q4 for 1993, was homologated by the Italian ASN as an evolution of the 75 Turbo!

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Old 1 Jan 2009, 16:30 (Ref:2363715)   #49
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Jesper, I think you mean 1992. That year Alfa started with the 155 GTA in the CIVT.

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Posted by 75TB : Recently I spotted a chassisnr 28. The chassisnr 28 is stamped on a small plate and not as a nr in the chassis itself as I have seen in some original cars.
75TB could you please tell us some more; where you've spot the car, who is the owner, etc.?
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Old 2 Jan 2009, 18:36 (Ref:2364196)   #50
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chassisnr 28

I saw the 75 with chassisnr 28 in Italy in may 2008 when I visited Scuderia del Portello. I done't know if they own the car or if they have the car in mantenance for a customer. I have some pictures of the car, including the chassisnr.
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Old 3 Jan 2009, 09:58 (Ref:2364418)   #51
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Excellent stuff !

Apparently they now want to sell the car :
http://www.scuderiadelportello.org/forsale.pdf

Interestingly, the car is already build in 1989 for the superturismo. The works team then drove under the banner of Jolly Club CiBiEmme sport and the cars were fitted with the 'normal' evoluzione body kit. The IMSA body kit, as fitted to the car in the picture, didn't appear in the superturismo until 1992.
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Old 3 Jan 2009, 10:37 (Ref:2364439)   #52
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Jesper, I think you mean 1992. That year Alfa started with the 155 GTA in the CIVT.
Yes indeed! 1992 it was.

If chassis #28 started life in 1989, could it be a case of a renumbered chassis?

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Old 7 Jan 2009, 09:09 (Ref:2366897)   #53
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Here are a few more shots I found of Bondy's car. Also cfound one of the Alfa 33 that ran the two WTCC rounds in Aust and for chunterer, the Gemini he was asking about(is there a Gemini thread?)





And you guys thought the first photo I posted was a wet track. Check out the track to the front left of the car.

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Old 7 Jan 2009, 09:11 (Ref:2366899)   #54
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And the Alfa 33 from the 1987 WTCC Calder round.

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Old 7 Jan 2009, 09:36 (Ref:2366916)   #55
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And the Alfa 33 from the 1987 WTCC Calder round.
Now that's a story that has always puzzled me- Alfasuds and 33s had been raced in Group A by various teams in Europe, but by 1987 were way off the pace in the class and very rarely seen: Despite this, the Autolodi car did the full WTCC season and I think was a registered championship contender, presumably a factory-backed Alfa entry. I can't help wondering why?- there was no way it was ever going to be competitive with the Corollas...
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Old 7 Jan 2009, 10:18 (Ref:2366944)   #56
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...but as long it finished there was 20 WTCC points for best in class, no matter how many Corollas were in front. I think it even managed a few bonus points for overall WTCC positions as well.


In 1990 several 33s (and Alfasud Sprints) contested the smallest Group A catagory (A6) of the Italian championship fighting lady racer Tamara Vidali and her VW Golf Syncro and at times Russian driven Lada Samaras. Go figure!

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Old 7 Jan 2009, 10:28 (Ref:2366951)   #57
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...but as long it finished there was 20 WTCC points for best in class, no matter how many Corollas were in front. I think it even managed a few bonus points for overall WTCC positions as well.


In 1990 several 33s (and Alfasud Sprints) contested the smallest Group A catagory (A6) of the Italian championship fighting lady racer Tamara Vidali and her VW Golf Syncro and at times Russian driven Lada Samaras. Go figure!

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Yes, of course- I'd forgotten that only registered entries scored points...
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Old 8 Jan 2009, 18:38 (Ref:2367855)   #58
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Pictures Alfa 75 EVO

Perhaps that some pictures already have been showed in former pages, but some will be new. In a few days I'll have some pictures of a Grp A 75 that were made somewhere in italy.
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Old 8 Jan 2009, 19:01 (Ref:2367867)   #59
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75TB, i'd like to find more images of Italian Touring Car Racing when it ran to Group A regs in the late 80's/early 90's. (As in pic 2 of your last post with the M3 and 75 side by side)

Do you have any links to sites that have some history etc?
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The photo archive on the Monza Sport website has some late 80's Italian TCC pics- mostly 1989 season, but there might be others. I've linked to a few in several of the Group A threads in the past, but it's probably worth a look (Some nice 1985/6 Monza ETCC shots as well!)
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