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Old 30 Jun 2011, 18:34 (Ref:2908759)   #61
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I think the amount Audi and Peugeot are spending is actually 1/10 that of an F1 project.......Not equal to. No where near in fact.
Nope...I think it was on RLM's Le Mans broadcast thatwas mentioned that Audi's and Peugeot's budgets are pretty similar to what is spend by some of the smaller F1 teams...
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Old 30 Jun 2011, 18:43 (Ref:2908765)   #62
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I think the amount Audi and Peugeot are spending is actually 1/10 that of an F1 project.......Not equal to. No where near in fact.
Well kinda, the estimated 50-70m euros Audi and Pug are currently spending is really nothing compared to the budget Toyota had a couple of years ago in Formula Dull. I believe it was well over 400 million in 2008.
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Old 30 Jun 2011, 18:44 (Ref:2908766)   #63
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With the liklehood that this will be a Hybrid and the fact that the current Porsche hybrid was developed by Williams is it possible that Williams could be employed to run the team?
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Old 30 Jun 2011, 18:46 (Ref:2908767)   #64
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With the liklehood that this will be a Hybrid and the fact that the current Porsche hybrid was developed by Williams is it possible that Williams could be employed to run the team?
The system was originally made by Williams with Porsche providing specifications. The system has since been developed by Porsche.
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Old 30 Jun 2011, 18:48 (Ref:2908770)   #65
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Nope...I think it was on RLM's Le Mans broadcast thatwas mentioned that Audi's and Peugeot's budgets are pretty similar to what is spend by some of the smaller F1 teams...
Mentioned by who? Just interested. Sounds plausible. But there is a big difference in the budgets between the "smaller" and big teams in F1. There was a story about the budgets in 2010/2011 recently but link espaces from me.
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Old 30 Jun 2011, 18:48 (Ref:2908771)   #66
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Well kinda, the estimated 50-70m euros Audi and Pug are currently spending is really nothing compared to the budget Toyota had a couple of years ago in Formula Dull. I believe it was well over 400 million in 2008.
yep. those are the figures. 50m-70m for the LMP1 efforts while the F1 project of toyota is around 445million.
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Old 30 Jun 2011, 18:52 (Ref:2908775)   #67
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but its true about the budgets of the small f1 teams..........HRT spent 34M last year on their effort..........Meanwhile Ferrari spent 200million.


but then again. F1 is full of Lucrative SPonsorships such as Marlboro, At&t, Petronas, Vodafone, Lotus, Virgin. So who knows how much comes from the manufacturers pockets...
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Old 30 Jun 2011, 18:53 (Ref:2908777)   #68
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As long as they are in F1, it wont happen...

As for Porsche returning to Le Mans. It's great news, I would love to be there in person to see it. Once they are in LMP1, I wonder how they will treat there GT program at Le Mans.

Because I do remember when the LMP2 Spyder was racing in the ALMS. There were a few GT2 Porsche teams upset with Porsche. I believe becasue, Porsche was not giving the GT2 teams the same effort at the LMP2 program, or was not good enough...
Hopefully a lesson was learned .
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Old 30 Jun 2011, 18:53 (Ref:2908778)   #69
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Porsche has 16 wins.

2014 is so far away though, a lot can change for the worst in the meantime and Porsche could be vaporware or committed to racing alone in a class with no serious manufacturer interest. ALMS might well be gone by then and privateers and the WEC have to survive for two years.

And of course the world economy has to be good enough to allow spoiled billionaire sons to come and fill the field. Motor racing (F1 excluded) is making less and less sense financially for manufacturers to get to the general public; unless the Chinese become big time motorsport junkies soon...

Yay.
I disagree, the motor industry is fighting for it's very existence, particularly sportscar manufactuers.

For such manufactuers to prosper, they'll have to maintain current performance levels, and improve efficiency significantly. Even if this technology is perfected, you still need to sell it to the public.

Those in trouble are series that don't have technology relevant to road cars, and who's very existent is for entertainment alone.
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Old 30 Jun 2011, 18:55 (Ref:2908781)   #70
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I disagree, the motor industry is fighting for it's very existence, particularly sportscar manufactuers.

For such manufactuers to prosper, they'll have to maintain current performance levels, and improve efficiency significantly. Even if this technology is perfected, you still need to sell it to the public.

Those in trouble are series that don't have technology relevant to road cars, and who's very existent is for entertainment alone.
Formula One.......Nascar........IndyCar........


Nascar will never be in trouble....formula One will nevere be in trouble......Not sure about indycar though
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Old 30 Jun 2011, 19:03 (Ref:2908791)   #71
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Nascar will never be in trouble....
NASCAR is already highly in trouble, the Sprint Cup ratings and trackside attendance have taken a nosedive in recent years.
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Old 30 Jun 2011, 19:07 (Ref:2908797)   #72
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Imagine if all the manufacturers decided to go to nascar.
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Old 30 Jun 2011, 19:08 (Ref:2908798)   #73
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Exactly, NASCAR is in a large decline while Indycar (despite improving) seems to struggle to carry any sort of momentum before and after Indianapolis. Plus, what is NASCAR trying to do to their cars to help stop this decline in 2013?? exactly, more manufacturer identity.
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Old 30 Jun 2011, 19:11 (Ref:2908801)   #74
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Imagine if all the manufacturers decided to go to nascar.
Peugeot to NASCAR!!!!
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Old 30 Jun 2011, 19:14 (Ref:2908806)   #75
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