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Old 22 Mar 2005, 05:36 (Ref:1258606)   #1
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Are there any differnces between a Porsche carerra cup Porsche and GT3 class Porsche?

I know I should probably know the answer to this, but I dont know 100%. Can anyone tell me if the cars we see in the Porsche Carerra cup are the same specifcation as those we see in the GT3 class of the British GT championship? The same question regarding the Ferrari 360 challenge cars, are they the same specifcation as the 360s we see in the GT3 class of the British GT championship? Power wise im aware they are pretty much equal, but I was just wondering if theres any differnce chasis wise etc. Thanks in advance.
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Old 22 Mar 2005, 17:34 (Ref:1259014)   #2
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I'm sure some of the cars are raced in the same spec in BGT, but I believe there are a few extra mods that can be made.

The rear wing on the 360's for a start.
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Old 22 Mar 2005, 19:31 (Ref:1259109)   #3
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Apart from the rear wing, those GT3 360's are straight out of Ferrari challenge races, aren't they? I thought that was one of the whole points of the "cup" class, as it was called, upon introduction? do the porsche carerra cup cars have wings? been a long, long time since I saw that series racing
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Old 22 Mar 2005, 20:08 (Ref:1259138)   #4
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I think the Carerra cup cars do, yes. I was just wondering if a Porsche carerra is the same chasis, engine etc of the Porsche GT3. Im now guessing its the same car?
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Old 22 Mar 2005, 20:14 (Ref:1259147)   #5
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Well, are Carerra's and the 996 GT3 the same thing? Other than whatever they race in FIA or British GT, I usually take no interest in Porsche's car range. So is a Carerra simply a style/spec of a particular model, or is it a model all of it's own? And what about GT3 and Carerra Cup lap time comparisons?
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Old 22 Mar 2005, 21:13 (Ref:1259195)   #6
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Is the 'Carrera Cup' just a name that has stuck from the past?

The current cars are all GT3's arn't they?
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Old 22 Mar 2005, 21:43 (Ref:1259233)   #7
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Yup, Carrera Cup, Supercup and G(T)3 class 911's are all GT3's. For 2005 the Carrera and Supercup will move on to the 997 though if I'm not mistaken.
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In Australia, we had Carrera Cup spec Porsche's , the Porsche GT3 spec car and the Ferrari 360 Challenge (with the wing package) running together. Just to say the Carerra Cup Cars were way faster.
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If I remember correctly apart from wheels the main difference is the suspension. (but I could be talking off the top of my head)
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In Australia, we had Carrera Cup spec Porsche's , the Porsche GT3 spec car and the Ferrari 360 Challenge (with the wing package) running together. Just to say the Carerra Cup Cars were way faster.
So what would have stopped someone taking one of those Carerra Cup Cars and running them in the aussie Nations Cup (back in 2003 or whenever it was)?

Was this at all tracks?

I know that if you compare 2002 Bathurst 24hrs Nations Cup Porsche GT3 times and the best Carrera Cup times from the support race for the Bathurst 1000 V8 race, the Carerra Cup cars are quite a bit quicker... but there were a number of factors - the Carerra Cup cars were setup for a sprint race, not 24hrs and the rubber build up of the track from the V8's would have helped with grip levels.... so are the times fair to compare?

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Old 25 Mar 2005, 15:56 (Ref:1261578)   #11
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Plus would a GT3 be restricted by whatever means, to follow GT rules? A carerra cup, afterall, would be a completely different championship with different rules
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For Grand-Am GT or last year's SGS spec the Cup car is converted by adding a fuel cell and changing the hubs to make them with 5 studs instead of center locks. Those are the main changes. You can also add different shocks and exhaust then the factory carerra cup cars. Some people run the stock exhaust and stock shocks. This year's Grand-Am rules allow changes to the cup car suspension, by allowing them to be changed to RS specs.
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So what would have stopped someone taking one of those Carerra Cup Cars and running them in the aussie Nations Cup (back in 2003 or whenever it was)?

Was this at all tracks?
This was what happened. The Trophy Class for Aus Nations Cup was open to those vehicles in 2004. At all tracks the Carrera Cup vehicles had the advantage.

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I know that if you compare 2002 Bathurst 24hrs Nations Cup Porsche GT3 times and the best Carrera Cup times from the support race for the Bathurst 1000 V8 race, the Carerra Cup cars are quite a bit quicker
Na your right there is no way at all you can compare these times.

At any track, comparing the ultimate times between a 360 GT or 911 RS to a Carrera Cup vehicle, the 911 and 360 are quicker.
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I know I should probably know the answer to this, but I dont know 100%. Can anyone tell me if the cars we see in the Porsche Carerra cup are the same specifcation as those we see in the GT3 class of the British GT championship?
Much different cars.The GT3 Cup is mainly used for the Carrera Cups worldwide. In GT championships the GT3 RSR is used. That's a much more powerful car (and cost more than twice than the GT3 Cup). The RSR has 485 hps and weights around 1100 kg, the GT3 Cup (2008) has 420 hps and weights around 1250 kg. The breaking system is different as well.

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The original poster said GT3 and the RSR is a GT2
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