[WTCC] Race 9 & 10 - Brno (CZ), 14/15 June 2008 - Page 2

touring fan01 · 14 Jun 2008, 17:33 (Ref:2228731)

SEAT's Yvan Muller and Chevrolet's Nicola Larini, who had qualified 11th and 12th behind defending triple WTCC champion Andy Priaulx, were both awared penalties - with Larino set to start from the back of the grid, while Muller's is a suspended penality, after being found to be running non-homologated racekit. Muller's balaclava was found not to be homologated, as were Larini's underwear and shoes.

The same fate befell Proteam Motorsport's Sergio Hernandez, who had qualified 13th and best of the Independents' Trophy contenders. This handed indie pole to Exagon Engineering's Pierre-Yves Corthals.

How ridiculous is that?! Losing their qualifying times for having the wrong underwear!! Why couldn't they have just given them a fine?

mattt · 14 Jun 2008, 17:33 (Ref:2228732)

stupid internet access

mattt · 14 Jun 2008, 17:35 (Ref:2228735)

I'd guessd it was something to do with the illegal engine bits but wernt quite sure

touring fan01 · 14 Jun 2008, 17:38 (Ref:2228737)

wow look at all the multiple posts. I guess the forum software is having a bad day.

They lost their qualifying times for having the wrong underwear and shoes. That's got to be one of the most stupid penalties I have ever heard of. Are they trying to kill of the WTCC with their dumb decisions all the time?

mattt · 14 Jun 2008, 17:42 (Ref:2228742)

and theres another multiple post

It is a bit far but i suppose its all for safety reasons

Bramzel · 14 Jun 2008, 19:53 (Ref:2228822)

Imagine being the official who's checking....

"Mr.Larini? Could I have your underpants please?"

Hazard · 14 Jun 2008, 20:20 (Ref:2228857)

Still not decided whether this is a joke yet - that was my first impression

I love a suspended penalty for a balaclava. Wonder if Wurz would be in trouble for his odd shoes.

**FIRE** · 14 Jun 2008, 20:41 (Ref:2228880)

A while ago a driver in WRC was disqualified because his gloves were not homologated.

Hazard · 14 Jun 2008, 22:51 (Ref:2228977)

I recall a balaclava issue affecting Marcos Ambrose in the V8 Supercar Series a few years ago - he got disqualified for not wearing one.

touring fan01 · 14 Jun 2008, 23:46 (Ref:2229006)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hazard

I recall a balaclava issue affecting Marcos Ambrose in the V8 Supercar Series a few years ago - he got disqualified for not wearing one.

Wasnt disqualified. Had to pit stop and put a balaclava on.

**gomick** · 15 Jun 2008, 00:15 (Ref:2229021)

did someone dob ambrose in

great drive to pole for alex zanardi

- hope he gets a race win...

stedevil · 15 Jun 2008, 01:11 (Ref:2229050)

Well, I must say grid drops due to wrong clothing seems a bit weird. It's not like they got an advantage that made the car go faster. I'm sure a hefty fine would get the message through without the need to penalize grid position.

racingdude · 15 Jun 2008, 07:19 (Ref:2229178)

Quote:

Originally Posted by stedevil

Well, I must say grid drops due to wrong clothing seems a bit weird. It's not like they got an advantage that made the car go faster. I'm sure a hefty fine would get the message through without the need to penalize grid position.

No, but I actually understand why they got a penalty. If fire in one of the cars broke out, and they had the wrong clothing on

that would be a very big disaster for the FIA! Besides, the FIA would get blamed for lots of things.

So I actually find it good, that they got this penalty! If a footballer (or soccer player, how you want to call it) didn’t have the right shirt on, he would get a red card!

SEATFreak · 15 Jun 2008, 08:03 (Ref:2229189)

Again more inconsistencty.

I think just a financial fine is enough without adding anything else but why a)give Larini and Muller 2,000 euros and give Hernandez 1,500 euros and b) demote Hernandez and Larini to the back but not to Muller and suspending it till the end of the season? Not that I am complaining. I support SEAT of course. But I support consistency and fairness from the Touring Car Bureau more. And I am afraid I just don't see why they came to the decision to slap 2000 fines on Larini and Muller 2,000 euros and Hernanzez 1,500, unless their a differing fine structure for works drivers and Independent drivers. I am afraid I certainly don't see why they suspend Mullers back-of-the-grid penalty but not Larini's and Hernandez's .

Hazard · 15 Jun 2008, 10:47 (Ref:2229273)

Great win for Zanardi.

Great drives through the field from Jorg Muller and Nicola Larini. BMW looking very strong here, Chevy's good too. SEAT's are wandering around helplessly today sadly (I wonder why

)

Bramzel · 15 Jun 2008, 14:01 (Ref:2229415)

What a fantastic race that was, classic touringcar action. Now Touring Car Bureau, please keep your fingers off the compensations for the remainder of the season, apparently this works so please don't break it.

Nice results for Zanardi, must be a heads up after a so-so season start.

Hazard · 15 Jun 2008, 14:03 (Ref:2229419)

The most insane WTCC race ever. Fantastic performance from Zanardi. Reminds me of the Zanardi from Champcar of old.

Probably the best WTCC race there's been - or maybe it's just me being a little overtired

Certainly some penalties due for some driving there though. Indie BMW's watch out.

the sniper · 15 Jun 2008, 14:40 (Ref:2229439)

The second race was brilliant (have not seen the first one yet), just what the WTCC needed

. It was good for the championship because this race probably would have had the highest viewing fiquers, due to it following Le Mans. The best thing though was that all the cars were so close together, this is how the WTCC should be all the time...

Best WTCC race ever? I think so

Dead-Eye · 15 Jun 2008, 15:08 (Ref:2229454)

Forget "W"TCC...just hold all the races at Brno

That was the most fun I had watching a touring car race since...ever, possibly

gd49 · 15 Jun 2008, 15:18 (Ref:2229460)

Definately the best WTCC race since Anderstorp last year. Just wish the coverage was better - why so few replays? Thompson's onboard must have picked up some amazing shots during the mid-field battle.

**touringlegend** · 15 Jun 2008, 17:09 (Ref:2229525)

That was a bit physical but only one or two moves were a bit questionable in my eyes.

John Cleland is great in the commentary box, he comes away with some funny quotes!

mattt · 15 Jun 2008, 17:59 (Ref:2229563)

I watched the first race today and the commentry was great - best ive heard

Sodemo · 15 Jun 2008, 18:12 (Ref:2229576)

The second race was entertaining, probably for the wrong reasons, it was a bit of a crash fest, Thompson really has got a bullseye on that Honda.

Bramzel · 15 Jun 2008, 18:46 (Ref:2229593)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sodemo

The second race was entertaining, probably for the wrong reasons, it was a bit of a crash fest, Thompson really has got a bullseye on that Honda.

Thompson had a bullseye on his car in Valencia. In Brno he simply was defending too aggressive, he steered in on people on various occasions.

Hazard · 15 Jun 2008, 19:31 (Ref:2229618)

Huff has been excluded from 3rd for a non-conforming front ARB link

Also, 10 place drops at Estoril for D'Aste & Engstler for their crash in race two and 1,000 Euro fines.

View Poll Results: Driver of the Day?
Alex Zanardi	22	91.67%
Gabriele Tarquini	1	4.17%
James Thompson	1	4.17%
Jorg Muller	0	0%
Rob Huff	0	0%
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