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Old 26 Feb 2018, 10:41 (Ref:3803997)   #251
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Old 26 Feb 2018, 10:57 (Ref:3804001)   #252
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So the wheels have fallen off at McLaren pretty early in the year.
Alonso is the only one to have used the Super Soft rubber, and still is a second off the TR Honda on the standard soft.
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Old 26 Feb 2018, 11:04 (Ref:3804005)   #253
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Old 26 Feb 2018, 12:13 (Ref:3804020)   #254
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Never could understand why they test in such low temperatures when the cars never ever race at those sort of low temperatures!?
Can still learn loads even at low temps. These cars are prototypes really. Besides there's nowhere else they could really test that wouldn't bring massive logistical issues with getting new parts etc.
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Old 26 Feb 2018, 12:14 (Ref:3804021)   #255
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So the wheels have fallen off at McLaren pretty early in the year.
Alonso is the only one to have used the Super Soft rubber, and still is a second off the TR Honda on the standard soft.
Not exactly comparable amount of running, conditions etc etc.

Besides no-one gives a monkeys about times until the 2nd test. They've all got everything detuned massively at this stage.
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Old 26 Feb 2018, 12:24 (Ref:3804024)   #256
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Not exactly comparable amount of running, conditions etc etc.

Besides no-one gives a monkeys about times until the 2nd test. They've all got everything detuned massively at this stage.
Agreed.... I was unaware of his lap count when I posted what was in reality more a tongue in cheek jibe.

Times at the lunchtime break. Not that important after just a few hours but for interest.....
Impressively Bottas and Danny Ric or Hulkenberg have yet to use anything other than medium compound tyres. Other like Raikkonen have gone one softer to the standard soft.

1 Ricciardo Red Bull 1m20.179s
2 Bottas Mercedes 1m20.349s
3 Raikkonen Ferrari 1m20.506s
4 Hulkenberg Renault 1m20.547s
5 Hartley Toro Rosso 1m22.371s
6 Stroll Williams 1m22.452s
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8 Alonso McLaren 1m24.202s
9 Ericsson Sauber 1m25.417s
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Old 26 Feb 2018, 12:30 (Ref:3804026)   #257
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Of course it’s incredibly early but can’t help but laugh that the “incredible” McLaren car failed and that the “nightmare” Honda engine did 72 trouble-free laps!
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Old 26 Feb 2018, 12:33 (Ref:3804027)   #258
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Of course it’s incredibly early but can’t help but laugh that the “incredible” McLaren car failed and that the “nightmare” Honda engine did 72 trouble-free laps!
Honda clearly have done some work on the engine since last season but it's early days yet.
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Old 26 Feb 2018, 12:59 (Ref:3804030)   #259
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It wouldn't surprise me to see STR beating Mclaren this year. And it wouldn't surprise me to see Renault's reliability suffer with the very large Renault customer program that's underway. It seems a bit of a folly to take on so many teams.

I don't blame Mclaren for making the switcheroo mind you -- but I got a sinking feeling they could be caught out with that decision nevertheless.
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Hamilton not even in top 10?

I know, he’s not driving, but just shows how easy it is to interpret the results to suit your own viewpoint!

Looking at the video of Alonso seems like a failure as suggested, rather than loose wheel. EDIT- according to McLaren it was loose wheel......

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wonder what the bets are for hitech f1...
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Old 26 Feb 2018, 13:44 (Ref:3804041)   #262
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Is there any free live timing anywhere ?
Don't think that they release live timing at test sessions.
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Old 26 Feb 2018, 13:57 (Ref:3804045)   #263
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Don't think that they release live timing at test sessions.
Thanks Mike, I’m keeping an eye out for info on twitter, whatever that is....
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Autosport have a live link but it doesn't seem to be working.

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Autosport have a live link but it doesn't seem to be working.

https://www.autosport.com/live/

I think that that is just live journalistic coverage rather than live timing. This ( https://www.autosport.com/f1/live/27...t-day-one-2018 ) provides the coverage plus up to date fastest single laps by each car/driver.
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i’ve seen a screengrab from the f1 testing app on twitter... is there a free version of that data?
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Old 26 Feb 2018, 15:36 (Ref:3804075)   #267
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McLaren is in full on PR salvage mode right now by running Ultra Softs to post 1:21:339
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Looks to me like track is so cold that is a better compound choice. Seems most have decided it’s too cold......
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.....Is there any free live timing anywhere ?
No Mike (not directly anyway). The Teams contract direct with TSL (not the usual FOM timing lot) and it's the Teams' data so TSL can't feed it live.
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Thanks Mike, I’m keeping an eye out for info on twitter, whatever that is....
have to say, the official F1 twitter feed is actually doing a solid job with posting videos from todays session including footage from Alonso's spin.

https://twitter.com/F1?ref_src=twsrc...Ctwgr%5Eauthor

https://twitter.com/F1/status/968067939864752131
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Tyre compounds are meaningless in the temperature ranges in Spain at the moment. Last year the softer compounds were slower than the harder ones. They're just not designed to work in those conditions so times are totally irrelevant. All any of the teams want to do in the first couple of days is make sure everything works. The top 3 will be doing 1:16's by the end of the next test.
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No Mike (not directly anyway). The Teams contract direct with TSL (not the usual FOM timing lot) and it's the Teams' data so TSL can't feed it live.
it's on the f1 app though?
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Tyre compounds are meaningless in the temperature ranges in Spain at the moment. Last year the softer compounds were slower than the harder ones. They're just not designed to work in those conditions so times are totally irrelevant. All any of the teams want to do in the first couple of days is make sure everything works. The top 3 will be doing 1:16's by the end of the next test.
How come? Alonso's fastest times were achieved on super softs compared to his times on softs.
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it's on the f1 app though?
Sorry, I should have been clearer - I meant it can't be accessed via the usual TSL Timing route for anyone looking there. But new for this year there is a new agreement for the F1 app to use the TSL / Team data apparently.
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How come? Alonso's fastest times were achieved on super softs compared to his times on softs.
Just because softer tyre compounds give better grip.
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