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Old 18 Dec 2006, 09:56 (Ref:1793385)   #16
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Copies of a couple of posts taken from an even earlier (1999) thread:-

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Given that Jim Clark always got the most speed out of whatever he was driving his approach has always been of interest. The more I learn about his style the less I understand how it all added up to such marvelous success.

"Thoroughbred & Classic Cars", Dec. 1999, Alan McCall, Clark's mechanic:

"Take brake pads. We used to replace them after four or five races on his car because it ws embarrassing. Graham (Hill) might go through two sets per meeting...(Clark) had the ability to carry extra speed around the corners so easily, without molesting the machinery."

"...Jimmy at the wheel of his big Galaxie was absolutely magic. It was all at more than 100mph, drifting into roundabouts - you really appreciated his car control. No sliding or clipping kerbs, just whoosh, whoosh, whoosh and you'd be through...I used to try (it) but it never worked out for me."

"I've driven with many racing drivers over the years but I've never had the same feeling as when I was with Jimmy."

"The big difference was his commitment before a corner...whoosh,whoosh...didn't clip kerbs, actually ran in the middle of the road...most drivers would say (his car) understeered like a pig! Not that it understeered for him...that's why I don't think he was a good guy to set a car up."

In Eric Dymock's "Jim Clark", Clark is discussed as a master of the four wheel drift. Could it be that by drifting the car at a greater angle than others would or could, the inherent understeer would be canceled? Were tires so hard then that they could withstand such abuse? All this discussion about understeer brings to mind the resultant scrubbing off of speed, in lieu
of brakes? Also mentioned was that Clark didn't use all of the available road. With all due respect to Alan McCall, I wish I knew what "whoosh" means.
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Graham (Graeme ?) Gauld who was a friend of Clark's has written a book about him and came up with the same opinion as Jackie Stewart. Jim Clark didn't know why he was so quick and genuinely couldn't understand why everyone wasn't as quick as him. To use a much overused word he was a natural.

For those who don't know there is a museum in Duns, Scotland which contains all his trophies and other momentoes which is definitely worth a visit if you are anywhere near. I have only been once and was in a hurry so I was only there for an hour. Rumour has it that when Senna visited he signed the visitors book and gave his real address in Brazil. Unfortunately I didn't have time to check this.

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Old 19 Dec 2006, 16:17 (Ref:1794902)   #17
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-Showed all the rally drivers how to do it in the 1966 RAC before sticking it into the scenery (well, nobody is perfect!).
As a J.Clark fan who has spent many hours discussing him with my next door neighbour (she was brought up on a neighbouring farm to Edington Mains, so knew him as a child), I think the rally drivers need to be allowed to put things a little more in perspective.
By the end of 1966, more than was ever appreciated at the time, the Mk1 Lotus Cortina had at last become the dominant rally car it could have become 2 or even 3 years earlier. J.Clark was familiar with the car and tested under the instruction of Roger Clark before the 66 RAC. R.Clark took the first 3 stages then went out. Vic Elford had engine problems from the start. Bengt Soderstrom, never the fastest in the team, eventually cruised to an easy victory. BMC, after problems in the snow in 65, ran standard camshafts in all the 6 works Cooper S except Makinen's. Makinen was thus the only serious challenger to the works Fords and led (once R.Clark was out and V. Elford never got going properly) until mechanical failure.
J. Clark showed exceptionally well on that event but not that much better than he should have been expected to in that car and with his background. Throwing it into the scenery twice was to be expected of anyone when reaching for that pace without enough forest rally experience - and he did so.

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Old 27 Dec 2006, 09:46 (Ref:1799815)   #18
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Fair enough, it wasn't meant to be a dig at rally drivers (at least, I don't think it was, I did write it over three years ago!).

Nevertheless, it is another good demonstration of Clark's versatility. One should also remember that there haven't been that many circuit racers who have done a better job at going rallying than Clark.

There's quite a nice piece on a few of Clark's efforts in some of his less well-known machines in the December issue of Motor Sport.

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Old 14 Feb 2007, 12:55 (Ref:1841302)   #19
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Born on the 4th March 1936 in Kilmant, Fifeshire.
Race success with Border Reivers included 12 out of 20 starts in their D-Type Jaguar.
6th June 1960 GP debut at the Dutch race in a Lotus-Climax 18.
1960 Drivers World Championship = 10th with 8 Pts
1961 Drivers World Championship = 7th with 11 Pts
1st GP victory – Belgian GP 1962, followed by wins in British & US GPs.
1962 Drivers World Championship = 2nd with 30 Pts (Graham Hill Champion with 42 Pts)
The following season he wins seven of the 10 GPs.
1963 Drivers World Championship = 1st with 63 Pts (Graham Hill second with just 29 Pts)
The following season he won just 3 GPs due mainly to engine problems.
1964 Drivers World Championship = 3rd with 32 Pts (John Surtees Champion with 40 Pts)
Next year Clark again dominates with six more victories out of the ten races plus he also took victory in the Indy 500 – the only driver to be World Champion and Indy 500 winner in the same season.
1965 Drivers World Championship = 1st with 54 Pts (Graham Hill second with 40 Pts)
The new three litre formula sees Lotus initially on the back foot and Clark wins just one GP at Watkins Glen in the un-loved Lotus-BRM H16.
1966 Drivers World Championship = 6th with just 16 Pts (Brabham Champion with 42 Pts)
For 1967 Team Lotus had the Lotus-DFV 49 coming through and despite winning 4 GPs the unreliability of the team caught up with Clark.
1967 Drivers World Championship = 3rd with 41 Pts (Hulme Champion with 51 Pts)
Clark started the 1968 season with a win in the first GP in South Africa but he crashed and was killed at Hockenheim in an F2 race.

Jim Clark took part in 72 World Championship GPs winning 25. He took 33 Pole Positions and set 28 Fastest Laps.
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Old 24 Apr 2007, 10:05 (Ref:1899186)   #20
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As someone that is to young to ever have seen him there are some amazing stories about him, if only I could have been around when he was alive. Can anyone recomend a book about Jim that is worth purchasing? Or even a DVD?
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As someone that is to young to ever have seen him there are some amazing stories about him, if only I could have been around when he was alive. Can anyone recomend a book about Jim that is worth purchasing? Or even a DVD?
There is a very good DVD on Jim Clark entitled "JIM CLARK The Legend Lives on" by SIGNATURE. I picked my copy up on EBAY.

Duke also do a DVD on Jim Clark in their CHAMPIONS series.

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JIMMY CLARK was my first hero. as a 9 year old in 1963 when he won his first world championship, he was the greatest. time has not diminished my opinion.there have been plenty of great drivers before and since, but in f1 heaven, i reckon, he would still be on the front row.
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Jim Clark Rally experience

On another board there has been some suggestion Jim Clark had significant early stage type Rally experience . Although as a young man on a farm he would have experience of rough surfaces
In the last excellent Graham Gauld book it said at the time of the RAC he had not done a rally for 11 years, and Brian Melia's moving and very comprehensive account indicated not much prior rally type experience. Brian Melia describes how green Clarks first drive in a rally spec Lotus Cortina at Snetterton was.
I contacted Graham Gauld as to what actual experience he had and this is his reply

The Berwick club had many farmer members and in order to give variety they were persuaded to open up a couple of gates on unmettaled paths going through the fields. Remember the phrase “Special Stage” was not even invented back then. It was part of the route and whereas on the normal roads we were restricted to a 30 mph average by going on to these farm paths you could open up the car and belt across them at any speed you wanted. However, these were not closed/timed sections, they were just part of the normal route on the plot and bash rallies of the period that were decided more on whether you could find secret controls to see you had not taken short cuts there was no timed speed element to it and so were in no way “special stages”. However, as I said in the book Jim went over those paths at speed and so had an idea of unsurfaced fast driving which helped him on the RAC Rally. I did one Berwick rally with Jim in the Sunbeam and one MG Car Club rally, the Moorfoot of 1956, which was a normal navigation rally on public roads with a 30 mph average. I can tell you, however, that when I had breakfast with Jim and Brian after the first day and overnight of the RAC Jim felt that his driving in the early stages was rubbish and that Brian would have been quicker than him for people overlook the fact that Brian Melia was a very quick rally driver. However, during the second day of the rally he got the hang of it and by the third day even drivers like Bengt Soderstrom and other Swedes were amazed at how quick he was on the stages as the rally progressed. That rock that still sticks out on the stage near Aberfoyle has caught out many people and it bashed in Jim’s drivers door. You have probably seen the photo I took of him on the special stage after the Ford mechanics had made a jury rig repair and it did not cause him to slow. Indeed Jackie Stewart and I went up to Aberfoyle to meet up with Jim at the service area and Jackie was with me when I took the photo and could not believe Jimmy was so quick in what was a bit of a wreck of a car.

So in effect, before the RAC Rally I doubt it Jimmy had done more than about five local Berwick rallies and a couple of other rallies plus sitting and simply navigating with his Cousin Billy Potts in the Austin Healey 100 on the
International Scottish Rally in 1955 when he was 19.

I think we can say that Clark would never look down on Rally drivers and indeed when he crashed out he helped the Rally team by driving a service barge and briefed Palm Gunnar on the last stage which Clark had driven as a demo. I also think he encourage Andrew Cowan to have a bash at circuit racing.
All in all A truly exceptional drive by one of the most talented natural drivers
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If you are interested in Jim Clark, the 50th (Christ !) anniversary of his death is being commemorated this coming weekend in Duns . I shall be driving up very early on Sat morning ; among other things Classic Team Lotus are taking a couple of cars. The sound of a Coventry Climax V8 and a DFV will be a nice tribute even through the sound I really, really want to hear again is the 4.2 Ford V8 in the Lotus 38 Indy car -a quite extraordinary racket ..
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