CC Racing Developments Group 1 Ford Capri Mk III's - Page 45

**Peter Mallett** · 13 Oct 2017, 08:55 (Ref:3773960)

Gerard,

The car is the Spice chassis signed by the man himself. It's an ex 24hrs Spa car. Appeared at Goodwood this year and I believe now has an HTP although not certain, I know it was being applied for. I thought that it had all the necessary "mods" because it was prepared by David Margullies (sp?) who knows a thing or two about these Capris.

The best place to look is at the RAC Blue Book from 1980 or Appendix J of that year.

Gerard C · 13 Oct 2017, 10:25 (Ref:3773975)

Ha OK, Peter. Would be interesting to know what shows the first page of its HTP, category Tourism de production de série or CT30/GB (if I'm right your Rover is hap'd as CT35/GB?).

**Peter Mallett** · 13 Oct 2017, 11:16 (Ref:3773984)

I honestly don't know since its about 1500km away from me at the moment.

jakeyt · 13 Oct 2017, 18:47 (Ref:3774065)

Hi Gerard
Yep it's probably GP 1+ as it has the 48iIDA. We weighed it without fuel and a seat but with all other fluids and it came out at 898kgs. It was involved in a big accident in 2016 so there are a great deal of new panels etc I suppose it's a bit like "Trigger's old broom" but there's a lot of original features. The Sotheby's website has a number of very good recent pictures.

Gerard C · 14 Oct 2017, 08:30 (Ref:3774151)

898 kilos, Mark, you just wrecked my weekend with this feature!

I dont remember the weight scale for the Grp 1,5, but a MkIII appendix should be around 1061 kg, impossible to achieve if you start with a road going car and keep its metal panels (my MkII is around 1073 and could be 1051). Had a look to the auctioneer's site but they didn't show the suspension or brakes details. What a nice car you got !

Gerard C · 14 Oct 2017, 16:26 (Ref:3774190)

Mark, you asked an interesting question about ride heights. Someone here worked hard to have many images of the Tricentrol championship. I've been surprised to see that in period they use to have then rear end rather high compare to what we do now. Wo's right i dunno though… You'll see that the negative camber used was rather high value too but may be we can see there the tires influence.

jakeyt · 14 Oct 2017, 19:00 (Ref:3774201)

The pics with the high rear ride height may have been prior to what I think was a re-design of the single rear leaf that gave it a shaped rear part that lowers the car, or even before adjustable anti-roll bars were fitted.

FormuleA3 · 7 Dec 2017, 02:50 (Ref:3785575)

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Originally Posted by Gerard C

Adri, its absolutely no gospel but I would go for a MkIII built in Germany Cologne plant in September of 1978 (dunno time of the day though). Probably she was born as a XL, engine 2.3 litre HC fitted with a 4 speed gearbox, cwp ratio 3.22 in Atlas, LHD. Trim color, red cloth, exterior difficult to say whether grey or beige or gold metal or nevada beige. If this is right (please James or Peter or others correct if I'm wrong) its probably a road going car next converted to a racing car as so many others. Hope this helps.

Gerard, That"s what on the vinplate is. Bud that"s not correct. The car is as a damaged car in oktober 1978 imported in the Netherlands and possible is then this vinplate rivitted.

FormuleA3 · 7 Dec 2017, 03:02 (Ref:3785576)

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Look at my Facebook Album:

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That"s what on the vinplate is. Bud that"s not correct. The car is as a damaged car in oktober 1978 imported in the Netherlands and possible is then this vinplate rivitted.

FormuleA3 · 7 Dec 2017, 03:17 (Ref:3785577)

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Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

Ok, I don't want to dispel any enthusiasm so I'm going with a period competition Grp 1 car but not CC. The rollcage looks standard Safety Devices from around 1990, not legal now btw. The vin plate is not a UK number according to various search sites. CC cars had a separate plate with the serial number stamped on it. I.e CC13 etc. Looks like a 40DFI carb. CC ran 48IDA.

So, probably not (Happy to be corrected) a CC car but a club racer of approx mid 80s. Worth more investigation methinks.

Peter, That"s what on the vinplate is. Bud that"s not correct. The car is as a damaged car in oktober 1978 imported in the Netherlands and possible is then this vinplate rivitted.
Plus,
The engine is not the orginal engine. When I bought the car there was a 2.9 V6 with it and i have replace it for an 3.0 Essex as homologated from grp 1. That's the engine on the pictures.

Driver/owner Doris de Munck has in the late 80's with the car races in grp 1 driven.
I am looking for information before Doris.
Doris drove the car in the Netherlands and in Belgie. As far as I know.

Gerard C · 7 Dec 2017, 17:57 (Ref:3785700)

You can have it back to Grp1 or Grp1,5 full features, engine and suspensions. One figure hard to achieve is the weight, CC cars were really light. If you go for Grp1 appendix you are allowed to race it at 1062 kilos. Others will tell you what is the weight scale used in period for a Capri Grp 1,5 but I guess it was much lighter.