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Old 2 Dec 2017, 13:59 (Ref:3784748)   #61
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Watkins Glen is a beautiful track, but who cares?

Mexico City is a big city, and IndyCar would make a big impact.
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I'd expect the racing at Watkins Glen to be better as well.

Sorry, but Tilke's changes don't help Mexico City in that regard. Turn 1 seems like the only realy viable overtaking point; I just hope the Indy Cars have enough tpower so that they don't simply stall out on the straight, making the slipstream basically ineffective. The esses have been ruined compared to what you may remember from ChampCar back in 2007. Turns 1-3 and 4-5 are single-file now, and like the Festival Curves at Portland, I'm kind of expecting for the party to be over for someone on the opening lap.

As for aesthetics, basically every long-lasting street circuit has that to some extent. Monaco, Pau, Macau, Trois Rivieres, and Long Beach are still around. Caesar's Palace, downtown Detroit, Dallas, the Meadowlands, Phoenix, etc aren't around anymore. Also, for some reason, people are generally more excited by Potrero de los Funes than even Algarve, which is pretty darn good for a "modern", permanent road course.
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Old 2 Dec 2017, 20:01 (Ref:3784789)   #63
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Watkins Glen is a beautiful track, but who cares?

Mexico City is a big city, and IndyCar would make a big impact.
I don't care if they never race outside of the US and Canada again. There's plenty of deserving tracks in the US and Canada and I like Watkins Glen while never really being a fan of Circuit Rodriguez.


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And sounds like they don't want it down there until there's a full time Mexican contestant? I guess I get that but that seems a bit pretentious.

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While I despise what Tilke did to the place, saying you never liked it is a bit harsh.

This is quite nice, really:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKtjsTAYrxc

A1GP ran that same layout in their 2006-07 season, also.

In human terms, Mexico is a much larger market than Canada: ~120 million compared to ~35 million.

And especially if there's going to be clamoring for Canada to maybe have a second race, I can't get behind the idea that "Mexico just shouldn't have any". But yes, I wish we had some other options down there.
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Kinda oddly, the rebuild of Mexiico City works for multi-class racing because it forces some real strategy and driver skill (and experience) on what you can do in traffic and when. For a single class series, it's a rubbish rebuild, but for WEC it was great.

Is Mexico only being considered because the circuit needs a second big event after WEC left?
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Kinda oddly, the rebuild of Mexiico City works for multi-class racing because it forces some real strategy and driver skill (and experience) on what you can do in traffic and when. For a single class series, it's a rubbish rebuild, but for WEC it was great.

Is Mexico only being considered because the circuit needs a second big event after WEC left?
If the Hermanos Rodriguez circuit needed a second big event, why didn't they push for the IndyCar race, irrespective of whether Gutierrez had a full time drive or not?
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While I despise what Tilke did to the place, saying you never liked it is a bit harsh.

This is quite nice, really:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKtjsTAYrxc

A1GP ran that same layout in their 2006-07 season, also.

In human terms, Mexico is a much larger market than Canada: ~120 million compared to ~35 million.

And especially if there's going to be clamoring for Canada to maybe have a second race, I can't get behind the idea that "Mexico just shouldn't have any". But yes, I wish we had some other options down there.


Thanks for putting this up, makes you realise what is missing from today’s racing
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If the Hermanos Rodriguez circuit needed a second big event, why didn't they push for the IndyCar race, irrespective of whether Gutierrez had a full time drive or not?
They must assume that the race would not be profitable without the draw of a local driver.
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