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Old 11 Mar 2017, 09:54 (Ref:3717960)   #1186
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Definitely was 2002, just before Bernie closed it down due to lack of interest

Of course anyone remember when you could watch the entire weekend on Eurosport?
Ahhh the good old days back when before Bernie's pension fund wasn't the prime motivator behind most F1 decisions.
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Old 12 Mar 2017, 17:51 (Ref:3718228)   #1187
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Of course anyone remember when you could watch the entire weekend on Eurosport?
Ahh, yes. And even the frequent euro-trash ads were amusing and different.
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Old 12 Mar 2017, 18:51 (Ref:3718238)   #1188
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Or the four hour season review programme they did! When did that stop? Was 1996 the last season?
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Old 13 Mar 2017, 08:18 (Ref:3718327)   #1189
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Yes in 1997 ITV made sure they got exclusive rights, as they were afraid when they went to their adverts, viewers would switch to Eurosport and not come back
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Old 13 Mar 2017, 11:16 (Ref:3718349)   #1190
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Those ITV adverts bloated from 3, 30 second ads to about 6-7 by the end of their contract. Funnily enough I watched a race in Italy in about 2003 and they only had a single ad break of 20-30 seconds then back to the race. Maybe had a handful during the whole race.
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Old 13 Mar 2017, 20:33 (Ref:3718454)   #1191
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Ahhh the good old days back when before Bernie's pension fund wasn't the prime motivator behind most F1 decisions.
His pension fund was never the issue, that was the divorce and keep the daughters happy fund that did the damage.
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Old 24 Mar 2017, 08:17 (Ref:3721092)   #1192
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Sean Bratcher, F1 commercial boss, has announced that Liberty Media are currently looking into ways fans would be able to pay to watch F1 qualifying and races using the internet.

Sounds like a move in the right direction. Apparently to be introduced as soon as pre 2018 season.
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Sean Bratcher, F1 commercial boss, has announced that Liberty Media are currently looking into ways fans would be able to pay to watch F1 qualifying and races using the internet.

Sounds like a move in the right direction. Apparently to be introduced as soon as pre 2018 season.
I'd rather they looked into ways fans would be able to not pay to watch F1 qualifying and races using the internet.
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Old 24 Mar 2017, 13:06 (Ref:3721178)   #1194
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I'd rather they looked into ways fans would be able to not pay to watch F1 qualifying and races using the internet.
i feel like that trade off would include a lot of commercials.

which isnt so bad...a free version with ads with an option for a 'premium' subscription without ads is pretty much the prevailing model for app based distribution. its important to have both imo.

i am curious to see what they would do for commentary though.
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Old 24 Mar 2017, 13:31 (Ref:3721189)   #1195
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Commercials? Cars with logos are commercials themselves.

If I were Red Bull, Mercedes or Martini, I would want as many viewers as possible.
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Old 24 Mar 2017, 14:27 (Ref:3721202)   #1196
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Sponsors will be unhappy if there are too many unable to pay to watch them
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A preimum online subscription without ads would be a lot cheaper than the premium TV subscription we have at the moment.
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Sponsors know the deal before they get involved, they know that F1 is behind a paywall and likely to be behind an ever bigger one in the future.

So it's up to them if they think they are getting a good or bad deal.

The sport is rapidly losing fans, so that is more of a worry than anything else, I think the sort of deals that are done by major F1 sponsors, tv coverage is not that pivotal, it is tie ins, advertising away from actual racing channels, media, social media that is the big thing. Networking really.
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i disagree completely, the only reason major sponsors are involved is the coverage that they get in the markets they sell in so with falling audiences and also the narrowing of that audience to the point where only those paying high fees for it then the returns the sponsors will get will reduce the return on that investment. Yes there are sponsors who spend company money for there own reasons but they are small fry now days and will never bring in enough to run a top team. If F1 goes totally pay to view then IMHO it will slowly die
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i disagree completely, the only reason major sponsors are involved is the coverage that they get in the markets they sell in so with falling audiences and also the narrowing of that audience to the point where only those paying high fees for it then the returns the sponsors will get will reduce the return on that investment. Yes there are sponsors who spend company money for there own reasons but they are small fry now days and will never bring in enough to run a top team. If F1 goes totally pay to view then IMHO it will slowly die
I totally agree with this. I'm sure that I'm not alone in this but I will certainly stop watching if the TV coverage goes completely behind a pay wall and would guess that I've watched at least 80% of F1 races shown on TV here over the last 45 - 50 years...
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