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Old 15 Nov 2014, 17:06 (Ref:3475070)   #16
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WTCC and current BTCC cars literally sound like they're farting around the track.

thank the turbos for that.
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Old 15 Nov 2014, 17:58 (Ref:3475096)   #17
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Having watched some old Wesbank Modified Saloon videos lately, I think going back to such a multiclass formula would not be the worst idea:

The old videos show it only needs a handfull of proper big bangers to make up the big division, import some used V8 Supercars, MARC V8s or touring car-ish GT3s like the Bentley, the Nissan or the M6 for that. Have a secondary division for improved two litre turbo cars from BTCC and TC3 and make up the rest of the field with the production spec cars from the Bridgestone production series.

I would actually watch that if there was a stream of it, and they wouldn't need to shoehorn everybody in the same engine formula.
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Old 15 Nov 2014, 20:38 (Ref:3475166)   #18
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WTCC and current BTCC cars literally sound like they're farting around the track.

thank the turbos for that.
This clearly bothers you very much
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Old 15 Nov 2014, 21:16 (Ref:3475184)   #19
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Old 15 Nov 2014, 21:41 (Ref:3475192)   #20
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would you rather watch boring races with great sounding cars or exciting races with boring sounding cars?
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Old 15 Nov 2014, 21:54 (Ref:3475194)   #21
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would you rather watch boring races with great sounding cars or exciting races with boring sounding cars?
On TV or in person?
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it doesn't matter how you watch it. just wonder why the sounds bother him so much
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Old 16 Nov 2014, 01:13 (Ref:3475251)   #23
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It's just that it was more unique with the V8's in them.

Only two touring car series in the world would have had the big displacement V8 formula, now its just another cookie cutter small displacement turbo 4 farty series.
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Global Touring Cars?

The MARC Focus V8s which are similar to GTC sounded great at Bathurst 12hr this year with their V8s and were quite popular with fans, then again it's Australia (as am I) so a bit biased there . Can't see a turbo four sounding as good.
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Looks like the series is still on track for a 2016 debut:

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...89386237816077

As of March, there were 5 chassis already sold, with a goal of getting 12 cars on the grid for 2016.
Initially, the plan seems to run in one race with the national production cars, which is probably a smart idea.

Also, there won't be spec-engines, and supposedly there is some manufacturer interest in developing/supplying engines for the class.
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Except for the front radiator great looking cars.
Powerful, fast en relative cheap.
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Old 16 Aug 2015, 18:46 (Ref:3566326)   #27
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Found another (older) article that talks a bit about potential entrants for next year:

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At around R1.3-million, a new GTC car will also be much more affordable than a current Production Car racer. The purpose-built GTC cars will feature a single specification tubular chassis wrapped in metal bodies supplied by various manufacturers which as of now include Audi, Ford, Jaguar and Nissan. Engines will be limited to 2-litre turbo units, with computer management systems strictly controlled in order to keep racing and budgets as close as possible.

Production Cars’ two Audi teams – Sasolracing and Engen Xtreme – have confirmed they will switch to GTC next year with existing driver line-ups of Hennie Groenewald and Gennaro Bonafede, and Michael Stephen and Simon Moss respectively set to remain. The Audi teams will likely use A3 Sedan bodies instead of current S4s. Gary Formato will compete in a Ford Focus-bodied car, and there has also been interest from privateer teams looking to enter BMW 2-Series Coupés.

The current crop of Production Cars will be allowed to compete in GTC races, but in a lower tier GTC Lights category. GTC Africa aims to start the 2016 season with a 12-car field.
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South Africa's having quite an upstart auto racing scene, haven't they? This series, the endurance series, the announced new formula series. How come?
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South Africa's having quite an upstart auto racing scene, haven't they? This series, the endurance series, the announced new formula series. How come?
Well, all their top series - Wesbank V8s, Shelby Prototypes - imploded during the 2000s, so they are really only trying to get it started again right now. I think a lot of different groups are throwing stuff at the wall and just trying to see what sticks, so to speak. Apparently state level series are doing okay-ish, but their national top series over the last few years was Production Cars and those even struggled to put more than a dozen of cars on the grid...

It'll be a long time - if ever - before they get back to what they had in the 80s and early 90s:

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It'll be a long time - if ever - before they get back to what they had in the 80s and early 90s
Out of context, this sentence in conjunction with South Africa can read quite disturbing

No seriously, the series looks pretty spectacular. Kinda like IMSA GTO if you ask me. I didn't know that even Hans-Joachim Stuck himself competed there, so the series had some sort of international recognition when Audi was willing to send one of its works drivers down there.
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