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Old 26 Nov 2015, 07:46 (Ref:3593414)   #1
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MGJ Engineering Brands Hatch Winter Stages - 31st January 2016

I know this has been popular with a few on here before, and some have competed (hi BertMk2!) so....



Chelmsford Motor Club are pleased to be returning to Brands Hatch on Sunday 31st January 2016 for the MGJ Engineering Winter Stages.

The rally will be Round 5 of the Motorsport News Circuit Rally Championship.

Regs are available at http://brandshatchstages.co.uk/

Entries open at 9.00am on Friday 27th November.
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Old 26 Nov 2015, 10:58 (Ref:3593441)   #2
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Well we hope to be back out for this one - we've been sidelined for most of this year with engine problems (or more realistically - lack of cash problems!).
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Old 26 Nov 2015, 13:05 (Ref:3593458)   #3
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It seems Palmer is realising he can make a buck out of this rallying lark huh. All that cash for a time when you are doing nothing else, everyones a winner!

MSV are running a sort of mini series at Oulton, Cadwell and Brands for all the race/rally wallers who don't like proper single venue rallying lol!

Seriously, they are putting some backing into it aren't they? Good idea.

I went to Dukeries and it was a bit over cautious with the speccy areas and marshalling, but they were no doubt trying to impress and not take any chances.

SAFE speccy rallying is the future no doubt, but it really is a poor relation to the real thing, a very poor one.
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Old 26 Nov 2015, 16:41 (Ref:3593482)   #4
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It seems Palmer is realising he can make a buck out of this rallying lark huh. All that cash for a time when you are doing nothing else, everyones a winner!

MSV are running a sort of mini series at Oulton, Cadwell and Brands for all the race/rally wallers who don't like proper single venue rallying lol!

Seriously, they are putting some backing into it aren't they? Good idea.

I went to Dukeries and it was a bit over cautious with the speccy areas and marshalling, but they were no doubt trying to impress and not take any chances.

SAFE speccy rallying is the future no doubt, but it really is a poor relation to the real thing, a very poor one.
There is an MSVR run rally championship that is circuit based - so Brands (round 5?), Cadwell, Oulton, Snetterton, Rockingham - probably missed a couple. Circuit based rallies are good fun - it's a fairly relaxed day and there's good spectator access - a lot of the events we do are on MOD land and there is no spectator access at all so these events are a chance for family and friends to come and watch.

As you say it's also a nice little earner for the circuits when there's nothing else happening so it's a win-win really.

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Old 27 Nov 2015, 09:39 (Ref:3593620)   #5
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Old 27 Nov 2015, 23:28 (Ref:3593777)   #6
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The odd thig is that it hasnt happened sooner!

There was a decent crowd at Donington, and Oulton.

I doubt MSV will sponsor events at Rockoingham or Croft, they are nothing to do with Palmer and he usually looks after nothing but how own!

Am coming down and a mate is coming down too, he's never been to Brands before lol!
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It was Jan 2011 CMC first returned to Brands, after various events in the early 90s. For the first time I hope to be competing rather than in the commentary box having been there for all the winter and summer events from 2011 to date.
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The entry for this is looking strong - it seems that being part of a championship has attracted some of the 'big boys' to the event. There's certainly some very quick cars on that entry list, those Darrians will take some beating (even by the WRC's).
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this is my only rally of the year, and I cant wait! Great way to spend a nice warm day in January Glad to see it back. It is amazing how hard it appears to be to take Graham Hill bend in reverse!
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At Donington the Darrians were quick, but so were the Millngton non Mk2's! By that I mean an Escort by name only, sure you know what I mean.
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this is my only rally of the year, and I cant wait! Great way to spend a nice warm day in January Glad to see it back. It is amazing how hard it appears to be to take Graham Hill bend in reverse!
Graham Hill always seems to be quite slippy. Has to be said I think going the 'wrong' way around the circuit is more fun - Clearways is definitely better backwards and the run from Druids up to Paddock is good fun too (you really feel the compression when you get to the bottom of the dip and start to climb back up).

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At Donington the Darrians were quick, but so were the Millngton non Mk2's! By that I mean an Escort by name only, sure you know what I mean.
Yep - those Millington engined beasts are very quick. We've got reasonable power in our car (or at least will have when the engine is back together!) but we can't live with them - we're giving away 60-70bhp to a lot of the 2 litre cars so god only knows how much the 2.5's have on us! Add in the monster brakes and super fandango suspension those boys have and we're in big trouble. The last time we did Brands we finished in the top ten - realistically I don't think that's achievable this time given the strength of that entry list.

If it's dry I'd expect one of the Darrians or big banger Escorts to win, if it's wet the WRC's might take it but it'll be close.
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I think a well driven Gp4 spec lightweight tar Mk2 could still get top ten, but you would need a spanking BDA/G or a highly tuned Vauxhall to get there.

The thing I did notice with these boys was they could all damn drive!

A lot of rich toffs buy WRC cars and always have done and can't drive them for toffee, and they don't work properly unless you drive them properly. These newer Mk2 lads are clearly well off, but can at least pedal.

A top end Millington is perhaps 330hp, and you are talking 200k for the whole build with boxes, suspension, labour. They are no proper Escorts sadly, but they still look and sound great!
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80 paid entries now, 4 paid reserves, 22 potential entries (once paid they'll go onto the entry list). Not bad in a few days!

http://chelmsfordmc.co.uk/Entry/MGJBHWS16/EntryList.php
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Great news that this event is back to chase away the winter blues, can't wait!
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