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View Poll Results: Where will the WEC US round 2017 be held?
Circuit of the Americas (early September? with PCW?) 17 36.96%
Indy - plenty of history and, more importantly, plenty of run off 6 13.04%
Montreal - close enough to the US border and would serve US N-E audience very well 8 17.39%
Road America - the only right choice but lots of 'upgrading' to do to please the FIA blue blazers 7 15.22%
no US (or Canadian) round at all - the WEC doesn't need a race there anyway... 6 13.04%
somewhere else in North or South America (Brazil???) 2 4.35%
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Old 16 Aug 2016, 08:36 (Ref:3665903)   #16
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I bet they will still be running at COTA in 2021, in front of 5000 people, repeating the same old tired lines of "we need to establish the market" and "you grow events little by little" and "it's only been few years since we've come here, we and our partners have complete trust in the attractiveness of this market and don't give up easily" and "the on-site marketing has really been improved for this year and will be even better next year, everyone in the city is enthusiastic of the 6 Hours of Circuit of the Americas and will be here" and "the world class facilities here are realistically our only choice in this country blah blah"
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Old 16 Aug 2016, 08:37 (Ref:3665904)   #17
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I hope it gets replaced by Rudskogen. It was built to FIA Grade 1 standards but I think they just didnt bother to renew the FIA gradings at all for last year. Still, it has the facilities and is a very cool track.
Norway... kinda like Bahrain. Monarchy and oil money. Why isn't this in the calendar yet?

I voted for Road America. Just for fun though. Doesn't seem very likely. Maybe Montreal could be the one, it just doesn't sound as exciting as some other NA tracks. VIR? Watkins Glen? Indy is boring as hell, although the long straight could make things a bit interesting.
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Old 16 Aug 2016, 08:46 (Ref:3665905)   #18
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I hope it gets replaced by Rudskogen. It was built to FIA Grade 1 standards but I think they just didnt bother to renew the FIA gradings at all for last year. Still, it has the facilities and is a very cool track.
3.3 km, a bit short isn't it?
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Norway... kinda like Bahrain. Monarchy and oil money. Why isn't this in the calendar yet?
It's not absolute monarchy like Bahrain though...
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Old 16 Aug 2016, 09:04 (Ref:3665909)   #20
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3.3 km, a bit short isn't it?
Probably, wont happend anyway... But its the nicest facility we have in the whole Nordic region, and has/had Grade 1 (or rather Grade 1T) status. Would be fun to have hosted atleast one high profile event before it turns into oblivion
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I bet they will still be running at COTA in 2021, in front of 5000 people, repeating the same old tired lines of "we need to establish the market" and "you grow events little by little" and "it's only been few years since we've come here, we and our partners have complete trust in the attractiveness of this market and don't give up easily" and "the on-site marketing has really been improved for this year and will be even better next year, everyone in the city is enthusiastic of the 6 Hours of Circuit of the Americas and will be here" and "the world class facilities here are realistically our only choice in this country blah blah"
Here’s the thing though, if the WEC doesn’t draw a crowd, then assuming COTA is competently managed (not a given) at some point the track will start offering the series less money to show up. And that’s especially true if COTA doesn’t think that the WEC has any other viable options based upon its business model in the U.S./Canada.
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I was gonna say - as long as CotA coughs up the sanctioning fee, WEC will keep returning there (much like F1). The suites at the track are really nice and the hotels nearby as well + fun entertainment is right around the corner in downtown Austin so that satisfies the series management needs.

Why go somewhere else when you know what you got?
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Does Caesars Palace still have the parking lot? It would suffice the needs of everybody at FIA and ACO. You know with obviously the "track" itself (just paint some random lines in the asphalt and it's just like COTA) and Neveu with his minions could go to the casino next door to gamble the dollars they made on the LMP2 spec cashing-in-deal + generous "donations" the Kingdom of Bahrain has given them on Patreon or whatever.
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I think Indy, they need a round in America and honestly its the most likely place after CotA and WEC management don't seen to be happy with the CotA round
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I was gonna say - as long as CotA coughs up the sanctioning fee, WEC will keep returning there (much like F1).
And therein lies the issue. IndyCar gave them a substantial discount last year to try and secure a date, and they couldn't cough the money up. F1 is absolutely in jeopardy, and therefore the WEC has to be assumed to be...
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I know the China and Japan rounds are out here, but I looked at the cost to go and attend, and it's quite high- and the Chinese round looked pretty scarse in terms of attendance. I know they're there to try and steer potential buyers, but I think it's missed the mark personally.
Actually, I was quite surprised with the attendance at China, last year. Even during QLF there was quite a lot of people there. Not a massive crowd by any account but the event does seem to have slightly picked up there

As for 2017, I think the only North American event will be the Mexican one. For 2018, maybe not even that one....
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Shanghai has atttracted decent crowds in recent years, I remember the TV proudly showing thousands of people lining up at the gates for entry.

The problem is the venue, these gigantic grand stands are hard to fill for anything but F1 (and maybe not even them, no idea, haven't watched an F1 race in ages).

Really the only WEC race that is truly struggling for crowds aside from COTA is Bahrain, and that will likely ever change simply because the potential spectator base simply isn't there. You can't attract something that just isn't there.
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A lot of people in Bahrain simply don't have the means. And I bet those that do consist of a lot of foreigners. There's interest but not enough.
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If someone can find a better translation, feel free to post it, but Dr. Ullrich from Audi Sport rips on Indy for the WEC and Formula 1/FOM/FIA on possible LM/F1 date conflicts:

http://www.microsofttranslator.com/b...-16081503.html
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After reading [suffering through] the automated translation, I thought I'd offer a manual translation of mine instead. So this is what he said...

...About race tracks: "Montreal isn't an issue at the moment in my opinion. Indy was being looked at, whether we could go there. But we'd have to revisit the issue. It isn't that great of a track. It bears a great name, but the track itself... this infield - no thank you"

...About the calendar: "A preliminary calendar should be available during the FIA World council in september. But as long as Bernie is juggling with the F1 calendar, ours won't be set. And he likes changing [it]." ([It is to be expected to come to a clash between F1 and Le Mans]) "It always depends on which track the F1 shows up for the Le Mans date. If they drove in Monaco, that would [suck], but that is no real danger. We know that Le Mans will always be happening during the 24th weekend of the year. That will never collide with Monte Carlo. Le Mans only might move if the French Open in Roland Garros change their date - there's an indirect connection.

This is simply due to the security personnel, i.e., the police. They cannot do two events with the prestige and reach of Roland Garros and Le Mans directly following each other. They need at least ten days to move the people [between the events]. I always wondered about these indirect connections, but now I understand them - and it explains a lot. If you are asking a police officer in Le Mans for the way, you'll always hear 'I'm from Lyon, I'm from Marseille' so they won't help you - they don't know themselves"
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