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Old 3 Feb 2017, 11:54 (Ref:3709007)   #16
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The way they are treating Ron is unforgivable
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Old 3 Feb 2017, 13:11 (Ref:3709035)   #17
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If they went back to 'M' I could understand but 'MCL' is just not McLaren. I dont see how the name change is going to do anything but give those in charge bigger ego's.
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Old 3 Feb 2017, 13:16 (Ref:3709039)   #18
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They dropped MP4 from the road car a few years ago. It sort of makes sense, but it's also a bit of tradition that has disappeared for likely no strong reason. Maybe they should have waited at least a season after Ron's exit. It seems a bit soon.

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Old 3 Feb 2017, 14:38 (Ref:3709058)   #19
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dropped the Project 4 name but not the numbering???

some people responding to that tweet are wondering if the electric blue colour choice in said tweet is an indication of a livery change...actually would really like to see that.
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Old 3 Feb 2017, 15:06 (Ref:3709067)   #20
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dropped the Project 4 name but not the numbering???

some people responding to that tweet are wondering if the electric blue colour choice in said tweet is an indication of a livery change...actually would really like to see that.
I would like to see a change in livery. They are saying the drop of MP4 is a break from the past, so it would be a bit hypocritical to not do something different with the livery as well.

If you look at earlier tweets, McLaren is using that neon motif plus other 2017 car related tweets that use orange instead of blue. Maybe we shouldn't read too much into it unless... it will be blue AND orange! So I might as well toss out a guess. I say predominantly orange with blue accents, or a nod toward classic Honda colors. Doesn't Honda have a history of using Red, White and Blue (not so much F1, but in their logo, product paint schemes, etc.)?

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Old 3 Feb 2017, 15:20 (Ref:3709073)   #21
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i like reading too much into things so blue and orange it is!

red and white for sure...last blue Honda car in F1 was that earth dreams monstrosity...so on second though maybe blue isnt a good colour for them!

also MCL stands for medial collateral ligament, a body part that is fairly susceptible to sports injuries.

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Old 4 Feb 2017, 01:19 (Ref:3709221)   #22
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Leaked details on the new MCL32 can be found HERE.

Loving this change from McLaren. And the Features list is impressive! In particular, number 7. Very handy feature.
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Or could it be this

http://www.motat.org.nz/collection/c...p-mclaren-967/
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Renault RS.17: Feb 21 location TBD
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Mercedes W08: Feb 23 at Silverstone
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Not a car, but the 2017 Mexico GP launch, got a little political.



Not overly pleased about F1 getting into the US vs Mexico drama. Politics should be left out of the sport IMO.
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...is anyone else getting a little tired on every driver proclaiming just how much extra physical training has been required to drive these 2017 cars? I mean, they're going to be on a par with 2004-5 levels of performance, I presume? I don't recall drivers from back then making out as if the physical challenge is as extreme as the marketing departments of the teams are trying to have people believe.

Just moaning I guess, but every interview is the same angle.
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Old 10 Feb 2017, 12:07 (Ref:3711394)   #27
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I'm guessing it has more to do with body weight of the current drivers. They're being asked to get to weights less than of a catwalk model!
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I'm guessing it has more to do with body weight of the current drivers. They're being asked to get to weights less than of a catwalk model!
It's a bit of a dead horse and off topic, but it's funny (sad?) how they will easily increase the minimum weight of the car to deal with larger (heavier) tires, but will not address the topic of drivers starving themselves over the course of the season to make weight.

Maybe this needs a social media campaign with an appropriate hashtag.... #driverlovehandles or #f1lovehandles

Back on topic... McLaren continues to tease the potential for a return to an orange car. At this point if they don't (or only run orange during testing) they are just setting us up for disappointment.

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Not a car, but the 2017 Mexico GP launch, got a little political.



Not overly pleased about F1 getting into the US vs Mexico drama. Politics should be left out of the sport IMO.
why? everyone should have a political view and be given the right to express it. politics has always been part of sport, and sport can broadcast a positive message to millions that wouldn't usually be interested.
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true, sport and politics have always been a part of each other but that doesnt mean we have to like it.

allowing political messages, however positive and right, allows for the possibility of negative messages to also be included and F1 has seen its fair share of those.

and if politics is allowed in why not messages of a religious nature too?

plus there is the issue if the Mexican GP's political message will have an adverse effect on the Austin GP held one week earlier.

i was pretty vocal in my distaste when BE let Putin into the drivers pre podium room a few years back (and the Turkish GP podium incident many more years back)...its only fair that i continue to express my distaste about mixing sport and politics even when it supports a message i agree with.

anyways, this is being talked about in the parc ferme trump thread.

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