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Old 10 Feb 2017, 15:04 (Ref:3711412)   #31
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Back on topic... McLaren continues to tease the potential for a return to an orange car. At this point if they don't (or only run orange during testing) they are just setting us up for disappointment.

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I keep seeing 'teasers' in print and on t'internet suggesting that the future could be orange. I really would like to see it- I'm sure the cars would be several seconds a lap quicker immediately......
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Old 10 Feb 2017, 15:23 (Ref:3711416)   #32
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true, sport and politics have always been a part of each other but that doesnt mean we have to like it.

allowing political messages, however positive and right, allows for the possibility of negative messages to also be included and F1 has seen its fair share of those.

and if politics is allowed in why not messages of a religious nature too?

plus there is the issue if the Mexican GP's political message will have an adverse effect on the Austin GP held one week earlier.

i was pretty vocal in my distaste when BE let Putin into the drivers pre podium room a few years back (and the Turkish GP podium incident many more years back)...its only fair that i continue to express my distaste about mixing sport and politics even when it supports a message i agree with.

anyways, this is being talked about in the parc ferme trump thread.
haha true....I think theres a distinct line between pure politics and spreading messages of tolerance such as this and the gay rights in sochi
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Old 12 Feb 2017, 14:01 (Ref:3711694)   #33
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Fitting the letter if not the spirit of this thread I am told of new Merc that will cost those lucky enough to get on the list a cool 2.3 million, not sure if that is $ or , said to resemble an LMP car, road legal 😀
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Old 13 Feb 2017, 15:09 (Ref:3711848)   #34
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Renault RS.17: Feb 21 location TBD (read somewhere that it will be in London)
Force India VJM09: Feb 22 at Silverstone
Sauber C36: Feb 22 at Barcelona
Mercedes W08: Feb 23 at Silverstone
Ferrari (?): Feb 24 at Fiorano
Mclaren MCL32: Feb 24 at Woking
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also Sauber will reveal images of their new car a few days prior to their on track launch (feb 20).

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Old 15 Feb 2017, 16:13 (Ref:3712427)   #35
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sound recordings of the the Honda and Renault first fire ups.

https://twitter.com/McLarenF1/status/831539885630689286

https://twitter.com/RenaultSportF1/s...51475750989824

in fairness im not sure what exactly i should be listening for (not nearly as knowledgeable about engines as others here) but something about the Honda just sounds wrong to me...dreary even. the Renault sounds better by comparison imo but again im not sure what i should be listening for.

i do like how they made this available via social media though...a bit more insight is always a good thing.
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Old 15 Feb 2017, 16:48 (Ref:3712432)   #36
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I've heard better sounding engines at a clubbie race meeting. BRM V16 , Ferrari and Matra V12 and Toyota V10 noises remains unchallenged. Ironically , so do the 80s Honda and Renault V6 turbos ...
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Old 15 Feb 2017, 18:19 (Ref:3712444)   #37
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Hard to judge a modern F1 engine when just at idle. I assume most of any differences you hear now would come down to engine control strategy and how they maintain idle.

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Old 15 Feb 2017, 18:56 (Ref:3712448)   #38
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It's nothing to brag on social media about, to be honest.
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Agree, rubbish sound that. Surely nobody thinks any different!?

Liberty has a job on its hands...
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Agree, rubbish sound that. Surely nobody thinks any different!?

Liberty has a job on its hands...
Actually God help us if Liberty makes knee jerk decisions based upon 30 seconds of idle noise. . I frankly hope they focus on substantial issues such as health of the sport and specifically the quality and competitiveness of the racing.

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Haas launching on Feb 26th at Barcelona.

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I've heard better sounding engines at a clubbie race meeting. BRM V16 , Ferrari and Matra V12 and Toyota V10 noises remains unchallenged. Ironically , so do the 80s Honda and Renault V6 turbos ...
The sound clips are rather pointless I agree, but when racing the F1 cars sound way better than Formula E....
We will never go back to the good old days of V10, let's see what happens after 2020 ...
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Old 16 Feb 2017, 16:45 (Ref:3712658)   #43
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Slightly off topic, but has there ever been an F1 car with a flat-six? I think the Porsches of the early 60s used flat-fours.
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Old 16 Feb 2017, 17:28 (Ref:3712661)   #44
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Porsche used an aircooled flat-8 in the 60's, I believe.
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Yes, the 804 was flat 8. The F2 car that preceded it was flat 4.
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