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Old 28 Feb 2017, 17:24 (Ref:3715357)   #31
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yeah not a great first outing for Stroll but at the same time it seemed like a fairly ordinary, if not minor, type of off.

so for me its a bit surprising that the damage was such that Williams had to suspend running in order to send the composite parts back to their factory.

just speculating, but i wonder if they were surprised by the level of damage caused and/or needed to send the broken bits back to the factory for more extensive analysis...hoping its just precautionary.
BBC live text said it was a damaged front wing / nose cone - and they did not have a spare.
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Old 28 Feb 2017, 17:58 (Ref:3715364)   #32
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Kimi on top after day 2 so thats got to be seen as encouraging.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/b...ay-two-878253/

less encouraging is the number of laps the two Merc drivers have put down which is something close to 100 more laps then Ferrari...maybe something to be said for the split day approach.
Kimi on top is nice for a change. Again, early days. One thing for sure: the cars are blazing fast this year. Faster already than the race lap record, and closing in on the absolute fastest lap which is 1.19.954.

Too bad about Lance. Rookie mistake. He'll get it together next time.
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Old 28 Feb 2017, 18:06 (Ref:3715366)   #33
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Kimi on top after day 2 so thats got to be seen as encouraging.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/b...ay-two-878253/

less encouraging is the number of laps the two Merc drivers have put down which is something close to 100 more laps then Ferrari...maybe something to be said for the split day approach.
Ferrari was fastes 5 out of 8 test days last year, and how many races did they win?
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Old 28 Feb 2017, 19:09 (Ref:3715373)   #34
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Ferrari was fastes 5 out of 8 test days last year, and how many races did they win?
None that I can remember. But lets try to stay optimistic
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Old 28 Feb 2017, 19:33 (Ref:3715378)   #35
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BBC live text said it was a damaged front wing / nose cone - and they did not have a spare.
probably overthinking things but something about that just feels odd to me.

were they only going to use one wing/nose element over 4 days of testing?

cars get damaged during testing...what was their backup plan in case a fairly predicable incident happened?

in this day and age and with so few testing opportunities, one would think a fairly well funded team like Williams would show up with some more options to test out.

anyways im going to stop speculating about this for fear i might be going full tin foil hat!

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Too bad about Lance. Rookie mistake. He'll get it together next time.
yeah too bad but agreed, he'll get it together.

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Ferrari was fastes 5 out of 8 test days last year, and how many races did they win?
im still holding out for a competitive Ferrari this year so im not going to answer that question!

hope springs eternal my friend!
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Old 1 Mar 2017, 01:15 (Ref:3715418)   #36
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Lap record is 1:21.670. Set in '09 by Raikkonen. We can safely say that will be broken today during day 2.

edit: Hamilton is almost there. 1:21.766!
Actually the lap record is 1:19.9.
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Old 1 Mar 2017, 05:01 (Ref:3715438)   #37
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less encouraging is the number of laps the two Merc drivers have put down which is something close to 100 more laps then Ferrari...maybe something to be said for the split day approach.
Agree. As per last year, the reason for the split duties for days 3 and 4 was because Mercedes didn't expect to do as many laps as they did in the first 2 days.

http://www.rte.ie/sport/motorsport/2...testing-plans/

And Mercedes also split driving duties in 2015.

https://www.mercedesamgf1.com/en/mer...friday-report/

[post = melodramatic]Amazing that Hamilton was able to complete one and a half straight days testing there, but Rosberg struggled to just complete the other half day without whinging.[/melodramatic]

Mercedes F1 have been splitting driving duties since the 2010 pre season tests for various reasons. But don't let the truth get in the way of your hatred towards a certain driver. Think CNN would be very happy to have you reporting for them.
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Actually the lap record is 1:19.9.
Actually, the Circuit de Catalunya lap record is 1:21.670, set during the race in 2008 by Kimi Raikkonen. The fastest lap is 1:19.954, set in Q2 by Barrichello in 2009.

Most of, if not all of the lap records will be broken this year, guaranteed. And they could also break the fastest lap records during qualifying this year. If they manage to break the current recorded fastest lap times during the race, it will be an great achievement as the recorded fastest lap times were in mid-to-late 2000's with lighter fuel loads and with better rubber. To break those times during a race will be something indeed.

And I think it could happen. The 2017 cars will be the fastest F1 cars of all time.
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Here we go... one team has been asked to change it's suspension design as it doesn't comply with the rules. No official word on which team it is, but rumours suggest it's a top level team.
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Ferrari and Kimi looking good, RBR not so. Shame really, they need to have a car to challenge for the wins from the start so Danny and Max can use their talent to the full
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Old 1 Mar 2017, 09:40 (Ref:3715503)   #41
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Fastest time of the test so far, 1:20.107 from Bottas!
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Here we go... one team has been asked to change it's suspension design as it doesn't comply with the rules. No official word on which team it is, but rumours suggest it's a top level team.
Which begs the question - is it a breach of rules or not?
Surely, if it is in breach of rules they would be told to change, or face exclusion from races.
Being asked to change suggests that it is not mandatory to do so.
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Old 1 Mar 2017, 12:24 (Ref:3715549)   #43
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Here we go... one team has been asked to change it's suspension design as it doesn't comply with the rules. No official word on which team it is, but rumours suggest it's a top level team.
There was an article (on James Allens website I think) that said Ferrari had questioned the Mercedes and Red Bull suspension.
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Which begs the question - is it a breach of rules or not?
Surely, if it is in breach of rules they would be told to change, or face exclusion from races.
Being asked to change suggests that it is not mandatory to do so.
They can run whatever they like in testing. They can only be told in qualiying/race.
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They can run whatever they like in testing. They can only be told in qualiying/race.
So - why bother asking them to change it during testing?

To my mind, it should be a clear message:
Either - 'that suspension design is a breach of the rules and will see you excluded from races', or 'that suspension design has been assessed and is fine'.

Rumour I have heard is that it is Ferrari who's suspension is the design in question. Having queried the Mercedes and Red Bull designs, they have been informed that Mercedes passed inspection - Red Bull's has not been inspected yet, and that theirs is the one that does not meet the regulations.
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