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Old 8 Jun 2003, 17:22 (Ref:624754)   #1
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Porsche's in rallycross

Over the years Porsche's have been used with reasonal success in rallycross. It wasnt really about how competitive these great cars were, it was just the spectacle of them, when I say Porshe's it was just about alway's the 911 or in the other gize's of 930, 990, 935. The reason for this post is to find out your favourite all time rallycross Porsche's. I will name a few Ive been lucky enough to see in action over my 23 years of watching rallycross. I'll start with probably the most successful one the Matti Alamaki bi-turbo 4X4. Matti won the European championship with this car in the mid 80's, it was a very costly venture with alot of Le Mans technology involved, But Matti did great in it, it most have been a ******* to drive with a reputed 900bhp+ power output, the car ended up with Marko Jokinen who didn't match the success his compariot had. Virtually identical, but maybe nicer to look at was the Seppo Nittymaki version, with a huge rear wing that made it abit tail happy, later used by Jukka Pelttari. other bi-turbo's were used but with limited success, Pekka Ranternan being the exception, Ludo Steukers was very spectacular as well. Late 70's early 80's were a period when the exotic GT cars were used by the leading competitors. Olle Arnesson's always went well as did Rolf Nilsson, others include Austrian Gunther Spindler, Swede Goren Lundgren,Dane Arne Jorgensen, Dane Henrik Jacobsen. German Hans Kirchhof, to name but a few.

Britain had many Porsche's, in Rob Gibson's case used with great success , even with the normally aspirated 2WD version. My favourite was Mr Porsche John Greasley's version always great noise coming from his car, also built the most powerful rallycross car to date with the black 930 bi-turbo 4x4, sadly wasn't seen as much as it should have. John Clark, Colin Perry Williams, Des Winks, Dave Wallis, Dennis Atkinson, John Cavendish, Michael Bourner, John Smith.

What's your favorite?
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Old 8 Jun 2003, 21:22 (Ref:625007)   #2
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Has to be Alamakis "flying banana"
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Old 9 Jun 2003, 07:51 (Ref:625342)   #3
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I've only seen 2 Porsches used in rallycross - Mike Bourners and Sue Jeffries' and I have to say neither of them has particularly impressed me. It never fails to amuse when you see a Porsche being passed by a Nova.

Guess I missed out on seeing the best of them!
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Old 9 Jun 2003, 09:48 (Ref:625458)   #4
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Sue Jefferys machine is the 1982 British Rallycross Grand Prix winning Porsche which was driven by Rolf Nilsson
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Old 9 Jun 2003, 10:01 (Ref:625472)   #5
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Sue Jefferys machine is the 1982 British Rallycross Grand Prix winning Porsche which was driven by Rolf Nilsson
That car won something????? What was it up against? It's never looked even remotely competitive when I've seen it, as soon as it gets on the loose stuff it's hopeless. It's also dropped from 4 wheel drive down to 2 wheel drive - that hasn't helped the traction side of things but it was getting absolutely whupped by the other supercars (it just gets whupped by Novas and Corsas instead now).
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Old 9 Jun 2003, 10:05 (Ref:625480)   #6
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Here it is at Knockhill.
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Old 9 Jun 2003, 10:12 (Ref:625491)   #7
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BERT MK2 - Thats women drivers for you!!! hehe! Have u ever seen that Porsche sideways???

And its 22 years old! I think it would be eligible for the classic rallycross class.
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Old 9 Jun 2003, 10:16 (Ref:625498)   #8
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in 1982 when it won the grand prix, Nilsson beta Trevor Hopkins and Martin Schanche. Although there were only 4 finishers as the likes of Matti Alamaki and John Welch retired in the final. Nilsson in fact won by 25 seconds!!
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BERT MK2 - Thats women drivers for you!!! hehe! Have u ever seen that Porsche sideways???
It's rarely pointing the right direction! In fact there are quite a few occasions where it's been pointing entirely the wrong direction. Or not been on the track anymore (seems to do a fair amount of grass cutting at Lydden).

As for the women drivers bit - wouldn't like to say (that sort of comment can produce painful results as I have found out in the past, just thinking about it still makes my eyes water).

I seem to remember it being driven by a bloke at one of the Lydden meetings and it wasn't any better so I'll say it's a definite car problem.
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It is some times driven by her partner Barry Stewart. (it was a while ago though)

I wouldnt have thought it was going fast enough to point in the wrong direction.
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Ahhh that's Porsche handling for you.

ANY speed is fast enough to point in the wrong direction.
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Old 9 Jun 2003, 14:45 (Ref:625907)   #12
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And that's when it's dry. Don't even mention what happens when it rains.......
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The track gets wet?
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The track gets wet?
And smart arse start line marshals get run over by wayward porsches.
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Anyone remember another 911 in British rallycross in the early 90's?- there was a possibly UK-based Scandinavian driver whose name totally escapes me who ran a green 4wd 911 briefly in the British series around 1990/91 or so- as I recall the car was only used for a short time until it was replaced by a 6R4, but definitely appeared at an early-season Lydden meeting....
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