WEC 2015 WEC Discussion - Page 34

Deleted · 29 Jan 2015, 12:50 (Ref:3498677)

+Dome

Pegasus is not one of the teams you would think of considering "Asia expansion". In any case, why have they purchases two chassis (if they indeed have) if one can do those separate programs as well.

Koenigsegg · 29 Jan 2015, 12:53 (Ref:3498681)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pandemonium

So we have four new lmp2 coupes in the Fia Wec? 2 ligiers, 2 Br-1s, 2 honda coupes, and an Oreca coupe?

3 Ligiers if G-Drive enters 2. 3rd one is coming from Oak for their all Gentleman entry.

Deleted · 29 Jan 2015, 13:02 (Ref:3498686)

I would've thought if Oak would put out an entry for pay drivers, it'd just be the old open top.

mariantic · 29 Jan 2015, 13:10 (Ref:3498690)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiana

Pegasus is not one of the teams you would think of considering "Asia expansion". In any case, why have they purchases two chassis (if they indeed have)

Indeed they do have 2 Morgans - see pic
http://www.mariantic.co.uk/lmp/AtoZ.asp#pegasus

Mariantic

Deleted · 29 Jan 2015, 13:15 (Ref:3498696)

Maybe they are hoping for two LM invites then as for projected progam like that one car would surely be enough. But even getting one entry needs good luck, ACO has always thrown them to reserves.

Koenigsegg · 29 Jan 2015, 16:05 (Ref:3498755)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiana

I would've thought if Oak would put out an entry for pay drivers, it'd just be the old open top.

Nope, will be the Ligier. Jacques Nicolet driving it himself.
http://www.dailysportscar.com/2014/1...es-closer.html

Coach Ep · 29 Jan 2015, 16:09 (Ref:3498757)

RSR hoping to contest (some of) the Euro rounds this year (+ possible selected ELMS rounds as well) with an open-top Oreca-Nissan:

http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/r...-lmp2-program/

Sounds like Gentilozzi is going to lease one car out of the former Pecom/SMP/AF Corse package from the last couple of years.

Koenigsegg · 29 Jan 2015, 16:12 (Ref:3498759)

“Europe is certainly fun,” Gentilozzi told Sportscar365. “We have some gaps in our schedule. We’ve got an opportunity to lease a WEC program that was very competitive and is now inactive."
http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/r...-lmp2-program/

We know the car will be a Oreca 03R. But which team is he referring to? Only ones I can think of is the AF Corse run PeCom entry in 2012 and 2013 and perhaps the Oreca 03R from KCMG? KCMG announed a possibility to run select rounds with that car.

Doubt it's SMP, since they'll be focused on their new LMP2. And ADR-Delta sold both their cars to Ibanez.

Probably KCMG then...

Deleted · 29 Jan 2015, 16:29 (Ref:3498765)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koenigsegg

Nope, will be the Ligier. Jacques Nicolet driving it himself.
http://www.dailysportscar.com/2014/1...es-closer.html

Surprising.

But in any case you can never have too much black+pink

Koenigsegg · 31 Jan 2015, 12:08 (Ref:3499421)

Team SARD-Morand confirmed. 2 cars, both Morgan EVO with Judd engine badged as SARD.
http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/t...ar-lmp2-entry/

The "Race to 24" show should be interesting. Can't find any more info about it at the moment.

Actually very happy that the engines won't be labeled as Toyota.

Mike E · 31 Jan 2015, 13:41 (Ref:3499452)

Nice to see Oli Webb getting a full season in the WEC.

Mike E · 31 Jan 2015, 14:17 (Ref:3499456)

Signatech moves up to WEC with Nelson Panciatici, Paul-Loup Chatin and maybe Vincent Capillaire.

http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/s...ec-lmp2-entry/

Simmi · 31 Jan 2015, 14:18 (Ref:3499457)

Alpine announcement drawing closer too.

http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/s...ec-lmp2-entry/

Exciting times for the WEC as it bolsters its weakest class.

isynge · 31 Jan 2015, 14:50 (Ref:3499467)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simmi

Alpine announcement drawing closer too.

http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/s...ec-lmp2-entry/

Exciting times for the WEC as it bolsters its weakest class.

Exciting times indeed.

I suspect quite a few entrants looked at the likely squeeze on non-WEC entrants for the big one in June and are trying to lock things in by going down the WEC route - which is to be applauded.

Speed-King · 31 Jan 2015, 14:53 (Ref:3499468)

Now if they only could recombine the GT-classes...

morningview66 · 31 Jan 2015, 14:54 (Ref:3499469)

With all these confirmed entries cropping up, looks like we are going to be over the 32 car cap. But who is going to loose out?

Here is my list of entries, those team who i think have put forward entries for a 2015 full season:

LMP1	Audi Sport Team Joest
LMP1	Audi Sport Team Joest
LMP1	Nissan
LMP1	Nissan
LMP1	Porsche Team
LMP1	Porsche Team
LMP1	Rebellion Racing
LMP1	Toyota Racing
LMP1	Toyota Racing
LMP1	Rebellion Racing
LMP1	Lotus

LMP2	Extreme Speed Motorsports
LMP2	Extreme Speed Motorsports
LMP2	G-Drive
LMP2	G-Drive
LMP2	KCMG
LMP2	SMP Racing
LMP2	SMP Racing
LMP2	Strakka/Dome Racing
LMP2	Morand-SARD
LMP2	Morand-SARD
LMP2	Alpine

GTE Pro	AF Corse
GTE Pro	AF Corse
GTE Pro	Aston Martin Racing
GTE Pro	Aston Martin Racing/Young Driver
GTE Pro	Porsche Team Manthey
GTE Pro	Porsche Team Manthey

GTE Am	AF Corse
GTE Am	AF Corse
GTE Am	Aston Martin Racing
GTE Am	Aston Martin Racing/Gulf
GTE Am	Dempsey/Proton
GTE Am	SMP Racing

I make that 34, at least two entries are going to miss out, but who?

blankfile · 31 Jan 2015, 15:03 (Ref:3499472)

prospeed seems to be missing or did i miss some announcement?
Last i saw was they were considering pro entry and maybe am entry too.

morningview66 · 31 Jan 2015, 15:23 (Ref:3499477)

Quote:

Originally Posted by blankfile

prospeed seems to be missing or did i miss some announcement?
Last i saw was they were considering pro entry and maybe am entry too.

Im making an educated guess that Prospeed wont be in the WEC next year. Their entry was based around Perrodo i believe, i think that also went for the GTE-Pro entry. With Perrodo moving with Collard to AF Corse, i think that means Prospeed are without drivers willing for an entry.

This is just my musings, i could be wrong.

Koenigsegg · 31 Jan 2015, 16:20 (Ref:3499484)

Larbre in GTE-Am, Oak's gentleman entry in LMP2 and maybe Greaves are missing as well. Won't surprise me if the 2nd entries from G-Drive and SARD will be declined as well as the gentleman entry.

lms · 31 Jan 2015, 20:24 (Ref:3499521)

8 coupes in lmp2, awesome!

from 5 constructors

TF110 · 31 Jan 2015, 20:37 (Ref:3499525)

10 or 11 lmp1's, 10 or 11 lmp2's, 6 gte pro's, 6 or 7 gte am's. I dont think they will all be at every race tbh. But thats a lot of entries.

lms · 1 Feb 2015, 07:21 (Ref:3499656)

there might be another oreca 05 in the wec - HdC said they sold 4 cars - 2 already announced that leaves 2. Maybe one or both will end up racing in the wec.

Deleted · 1 Feb 2015, 15:28 (Ref:3499741)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speed-King

Now if they only could recombine the GT-classes...

No everybody must be able to get a trophy, this was the Kindergarten Ski Olympics competition after all?

chernaudi · 1 Feb 2015, 17:06 (Ref:3499764)

I can understand having a separate competition for pro-am drivers and teams in GT, but why not model more like the LMP2 class where the GTE-Am teams have different equipment than the GTE-Pro teams?

Wasn't that the original intent behind the GTE-Am teams using year or so older equipment than the GTE-Pro teams? Well, the ACO shot themselves in the foot on that one though a rules loophole that rendered the GTE-Am older spec car rule rather meaningless (I.E., if you're gonna have a rule, enforce it rather than have loopholes and technicalities that all but make the rule null and void in all but name). It could be argued that the road to hell was paved with good intentions there, but I digress...

Considering that, I can see the redundancy behind the GTE-Pro and GTE-Am. At least IMSA has GTLM aimed at factory teams and professional privateer outfits, and GTD aimed at gentleman drivers and rookies. But since the ACO and FIA don't want to touch the GT3 stuff yet and carmakers and teams like Porsche, AMR, and Ferrari having cars and parts that they wanna sell, what would you expect the ACO and FIA to do?

We can argue that point forever, but until the ACO and FIA support a pro-am GT class in the spirit of the current LMP2 class for prototypes, this is what we've got.

Deleted · 1 Feb 2015, 17:20 (Ref:3499765)

The LMP2 format is perfectly fine. The only thing I would immediately change is the lame pro-am driver requirement, which again connects to the trendy "everybody must win" ideology, but otherwise there are no real issues. When your class B has machinery built to entirely different standards than class A, you are entitled to your own class. Simple as that. As I always say, more classes the better - but only if they are real classes.

GTE-PRO and GTE-AM would be okay I guess in some national series or whatever, but the setout just looks so unprofessional in world championship for sportscars (/Le Mans). In this environment free gifts to everyone participating is just a joke and has always been. The old GT2 would laugh at this, particularly when the car count isn't even higher than it used to be!

If really have to have some kind of award for being the best of the rest, give special "FIA Gentlemen Trophy" at the end of the year for best finished pro-am team in total GT points. But leave all the other garbage out of it, it's not like with all the BoP and shenanigans there's shortage of problems in the category.

They had the intelligence to get rid of the unecessary LMP1-L at least which was good, even if they'll still get recognized (in some form).

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