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The first motor race was in France in 1895 on public roads. Many of the earliest races were on streets before the first tracks starting popping up. Horse racing tracks like the Milwaukee Mile were first used, and in 1907 Brooklands opened as the first purpose-built tracks. After WWII, there were even some races held on old aerodromes. So by still racing in some streets and ovals, it is somewhat a homage to the earliest racing. This is why I have always enjoyed the small airport tracks of Cleavland and Edmonton too.
That list of tracks was very much an optimistic wish list, but I'd at least like to see all the boring street tracks replaced with better venues. I don't realistically seeing Toronto go (along with the obvious Long Beach, and Detroit which should be a staple), but the rest are nothing special and don't produce very good races. Road America, Laguna Seca, and Watkins Glenn are must have races in my opinion. Portland would be a very welcomed track too. It should be up to spec after the renovations they had done. I wouldn't like to see a roval race either, but if they really want one, then Indy would work the best. Agreed on Austin, the F1 race there was nothing spectacular, but hardly any modern F1 races are. ALMS will be there later this month to give it another look for me. |
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This illuminates part of the picture. It doesn't look like Detroit is moving, for one.
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No problem. Laguna, Portland, and Road America are definatley classic road courses. Should always be on the schedule I think just like Long beach, Indy, Cleveland, Pocono, Phoenix, Milwaukee, Mid Ohio, Toronto, and Detroit.
That's 12 races I think should be raced every season. I would love to always see an even 20 races, but 17 is a good realistic number they seem to average. This year is 19, but three of the races are back to back at the same track, which I think are kind of dumb just to pad the schedule length, so it's really 16. They're probably going to hold races at COTA and Indy Roval. COTA could work, but I really detest rovals and hope they don't have a race there. For the rest, I love the Texas night race, Watkins Glen really should return, Barber is a track I enjoy watching, as well as Infineon (but I would rather see Laguna if it comes to it). |
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Yes Mark, the reason for IndyCar's decline is obviously because of NFL.
Straws are being clutched at 16th & Georgetown. |
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That calendar looks realistic.
Still I don't like the idea of racing at the Indianapolis road course. And Texas Motor Speedway bosses won't like having Houston just 6 weeks before. |
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I don't like the season ending so early and if they must have a second race at Indy, have it later in season or even end it at Indy, two races in the month of May is overkill.
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Who came up with this schedule?
March 28/29 Honda Grand Prix of St. Petersburg, Streets of St. Petersburg* April 6 Honda Grand Prix of Alabama. Barber Motorsport Park April 13 Toyota Grand Prix of Long Beach, Streets of Long Beach April 26/27 Shell Grand Prix of Houston, Reliant Stadium May 11 Grand Prix of Indianapolis, Indianapolis Motor Speedway Road Course May 25 Indianapolis 500 May 30/ June 1 Chevrolet Duel at Detroit* June 7 Texas Motor Speedway June 21 Milwaukee Indyfest, The Milwaukee Mile July 6 Pocono Indy 500, Pocono Raceway July 19/20 Honda Grand Prix of Toronto* July 27 Iowa Corn 250, Iowa Motor Speedway August 3 Honda Indy 200, Mid-Ohio Sportscar Course August 24 Go-Pro Grand Prix of Sonoma August 29 MavTV 500, Auto Club Speedway |
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Eurgh.
I just don't get this 'must capitalise on Indy500 momentum' thing. All they are doing is resigning thier main event to the history books only 5 days after it happens. Surely that's the time to be pedalling your champion around the TV chat shows etc? As for the rest of the schedule..... no words. I think IndyCar need to move their offices, it's obvious that something is in the water supply/air conditioning system that turns seemingly intelligent human beings into dribbling idiots. |
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The Indy thing is the move of a desperate series willing to try anything to boost numbers who attend Indy and 'anything' seems to include further dividing figures that attend Indy. Figure that one out.
But I've no objection from a pure sporting angle to the calender. |
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What I find worse is that California gets two races within five days! According to Google maps, it's just a six hour drive from one track to the other. If I was living in California, I would skip one race and just go to the other. In my opinion, that potential schedule is a good device to kill off half of the californian market.
It's also nonsense to end the season on the last week of August. Formula One's season just gets fully underway by August. What is IndyCar going to do in the period from September 2014 - March 2015? Because I doubt that an international series will get off the ground. It's also nice from IndyCar that they won't take away any media attention from NASCAR during the chase. |
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I found this article. http://beyondtheflag.com/2013/09/18/...e-lack-luster/
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Now, we heard that the Fontana race could be held in mid June (late night I guess). That way, the full Triple Crown would be in mid season, and it wouldn't interfere with the championship fight. And, Houston would be held in early May, and we know that Texas Motor Speedway bosses would be unhappy with that. So how about having the season finale at Texas? |
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From that great site for speculation, Autoracing1. http://www.autoracing1.com/
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22 Sep 2013, 12:57 (Ref:3307392) | #173 | ||
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I meant to do Houston in late April, as rumoured, and the season finale at Texas Motor Speedway in September.
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They should just leave things as they are and finish the season at Fontana in October.
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