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I think the biggest problem is, that Heidfeld doesn't know whether or not he has to search for a (temporary) seat in another series, as long as Jordan doesn't announce their drivers.
We've already lost good drivers (Salo, Frentzen, and others) in favour of young drivers who may or may not become good drivers in the future. And now we're about to loose a young driver who has actually proven to be very good ... |
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i posted this on another dg, if ever there was a time for an american sponsor to come up with the $$$$$ to support an american driver's entry into f1, now would be the time with jordan.....it's sad really....nothing personal against jos or heidfeld(should he get the ride), but other than $$$$$, i just don't think they have it.....they'll be running with the minardis.....
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Jos' management situation seems to have got progressively worse. Despite what Peridon might think, Eddie can run this team without Jos, comeptitively and financially managbly. Most neutrals would prefer to see them find the funding from elsewhere and be able to run 2 better dirvers than Jos, who has never really delivered. Briatore, Walkinshaw (twice), Pollock and Stewart all dumped him - can they all be wrong?
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PLz... 'TRUST' US!!!- Its done
... say Jos's sponsers on his drive with jordon. Apparently Eddie has given his word on the phone...
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Jos's sponsers are gulible if they believe anything is agreed until it's actually signed, sealed and delivered.
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especially with EJ in the mood for grueling court cases!!
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24 Jan 2004, 18:25 (Ref:849474) | #36 | |
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Briatore, ah well, Jos was young and inconsistent. Walkinshaw dumped him in favour of a paying driver (Diniz to pay for Hill's salary), Pollock dumped him in favour of a paying driver (Rosset), Stewart/Jaguar have dumped all of their second drivers since it seems they can't prepare 2 competitive cars and the second time with Walkinshaw.. ah well.. he was hands down the best on Sunday in 2000 and 2001 compared to his teammate, so I prefer not too waste too much time on that issue.
It's nice to be on the other side for once, now it's Verstappen with the cash. |
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On Arrows 2002; he wasn't up against Bernoldi/RedBull, he was up against H.H. Frentzen and indeed, that was no contest at all... Which reminds me: back in 2002 Eddie Jordan was in sudden need of a driver for the French GP after Fisico had a shunt on saturdaymorning. Jos was readily available, having no contract whatsoever. Frentzen was still tied to an Arrows-contract. Who did Eddie Jordan call? Exactly. Didn't work out due to Frentzen legal advisors who advised against and even than Eddie choose to only run Sato. So, how serious is Eddie chasing Jos rather than the money he is bringing? Last edited by NiceGuyEddie; 24 Jan 2004 at 18:58. |
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A sad state of affairs indeed. Trust/Verstappen would only be a quick fix and I would hate to see Jordan have to shut up shop.
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Lets hear Jos himself about the whole stuff thats going on:
http://members.aon.at/musigym/story.wav love, bridget |
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best thing I've heard in ages!
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BTW: Michel Peridon has not only said EJ agreed on his therms(www.trust.com), he also said said the contracts will probably be signed on tuesday(in a dutch newspaper).
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Stop making me laugh now! It was HHF who drove the Arrows in saturday afternoon qualifying (albeit very slow). You are not seriously suggesting that EJ walked to the Arrows transporter after Fisichella had crashed on saturdaymorning and was trying to lure HHF into a Jordan, while he was under contract for Arrows in the same weekend, on the same day, and even competed for Arrows that day?? So, HHF wasn't available because his legal advisors said he shouldn't be in the Arrows-team on saturdaymorning and drive for Jordan for the qualifying sessions, and because Jos wasn't brought in as a replacement for the 1pm qualifying-session after Fisico had crashed some 2-3 hours before, it shows that EJ didn't want Jos? Now come on, get real Last edited by Svend; 26 Jan 2004 at 03:17. |
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Well, Frentzen only did one flying lap in the qualifying for that GP and missed the 107% so he didn't start in the race either....
"That driver need not have taken part in qualifying - Jordan could well have put a test driver in the car. Except that they don't have a test driver. Which led to the sensational press release on Saturday afternoon that Frentzen was going to take over the car, virtually a year after he had been controversially sacked by Eddie Jordan. This was even more amazing considering that the two parties were still engaged in legal action! If ever there was a conciliatory peace offering (or a mindless piece of stunt-PR work), this was it. Although Jordan (in particular Deutsche Post) and Frentzen were keen on the one-off, legal complications ensured that it would never happen." Full story about the French GP in 2002: http://f1rejects.crosswinds.net/centrale/2002/france/ Last edited by nkh; 26 Jan 2004 at 04:54. |
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Besides, Jordan were trying to get Frentzen for sunday´s race. Negotiations were taking place during the night from saturday till sunday. It could be done if all parties agreed. In fact, if I remember correctly, I am not sure, the FIA allready commented that they wouldn´t block the move and would allow Frentzen to take part for Jordan. Just get your facts straight before you take part in any discussion like everyone else on this board. Last edited by NiceGuyEddie; 26 Jan 2004 at 11:50. |
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And then you use the intention of EJ to run with HHF to prove that he didn't want Jos in the car, despite Verstappen being available? Verstappen was; - probably at home some 7 hours away - didn't race an F1 car in the last 7 months - would have been in time probably for the sunday warmup for 30 minutes of practise, in a car he didn't know. - he would have started dead last. So the fact that EJ didn't pick a driver who hadn't been in an F1 car for ages to jump into the race straight away in an unknown car shows that EJ didn't want Jos.. hehehe. Getting my facts straight? Some touch of realism wouldn't hurt you. Readily available.. for sunday warmup that is. It would have been a different matter if a replacement driver could have made a clean start from the saturday morning practise. At least you had some decent practise time. Any replacement driver other than Verstappen would have had some 12 practise laps in the warmup and then having to jump straight into the race. Insane to say at least. Maybe EJ could have opted for a test driver of some other team around, but he didn't even do that, and those are the guys who do have miles under their belt. Last edited by Svend; 26 Jan 2004 at 15:45. |
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