[WTCC] Race 5 & 6 - Valencia (SPA), 17/18 May 2008 - Page 2

**FIRE** · 21 Apr 2008, 16:58 (Ref:2183093)

New website Russian Bears:
http://www.russianbearsmotorsport.com/eng

JorritVD · 22 Apr 2008, 13:34 (Ref:2183990)

What is actually happened with Seat Sport Italia, Maurizio Ceresoli and Luca Rangoni?

Martin Haven · 22 Apr 2008, 18:35 (Ref:2184282)

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Originally Posted by dj4monie

Wow times are close, well done WTCC. The Honda is already on pace, signs look good for another cracker event!

Wow racing in 2008 has been pretty darn good thus far!

Worth remembering Thommo's Valencia double-winning weekend last season - wonder what the odds are at the bookies for a repeat?

I agree with the second statement - close racing, even though the SEATs have been the major points scorers so far... and Valencia should be good for them too.

Maybe time for a poll: Will Rob Huff survive the first corner in Valencia this (or any) year?

Bet he's not looking forward to it... but I am... sunshine, back in the paddock and the finest Paella restaurant in la toute Espana...

oh, and I have a big surprise... wonder who'll be the first to guess the new WTCC analyst's identity???

Matt · 22 Apr 2008, 18:49 (Ref:2184286)

Martin, you should mention TT on TV sometime, lol. :P My guess? Highly unlikely, but maybe Charlie Cox?

**Dani Filth** · 22 Apr 2008, 19:01 (Ref:2184292)

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Originally Posted by Martin Haven

oh, and I have a big surprise... wonder who'll be the first to guess the new WTCC analyst's identity???

or maybe Kox ?

Martin Haven · 22 Apr 2008, 19:04 (Ref:2184295)

No extra Cox (Kox) in the booth...

keep guessing...

like the Peter Kox guess by the way, very left-field!

Bramzel · 22 Apr 2008, 19:20 (Ref:2184302)

Anthony Reid? Would be a honorable successor to David.

Martin Haven · 22 Apr 2008, 19:22 (Ref:2184303)

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Originally Posted by Bramzel

Anthony Reid? Would be a honorable successor to David.

Agreed - but not Anthony...

Bramzel · 22 Apr 2008, 19:25 (Ref:2184310)

He's probably British and has a touring car background, as well as some charisma and technical knowledge. Cleland then perhaps?

**touringlegend** · 22 Apr 2008, 19:26 (Ref:2184311)

Predictions entries are now open for Valencia. Click Here.

Martin Haven · 22 Apr 2008, 19:38 (Ref:2184318)

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Originally Posted by touringlegend

Predictions entries are now open for Valencia. Click Here.

Is that for the race or the analyst???

the sniper · 22 Apr 2008, 21:05 (Ref:2184400)

I bet it is Tim Harvey, what do we win if we get it right? A tour of British Eurosport HQ?

stedevil · 23 Apr 2008, 04:11 (Ref:2184562)

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Originally Posted by Martin Haven

Worth remembering Thommo's Valencia double-winning weekend last season - wonder what the odds are at the bookies for a repeat?

Didn't check the odds, but not unless Honda manages to figure out how to make the tires last a bit better. In the opening STCC weekend the Honda was clearly the fastest car, up to the point that they had chewed up their tires (which only took about 5 laps...). If they do manage to get the tirewear under control without lowering performance too much, a Tommo 1-1 is probably possible.

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wonder who'll be the first to guess the new WTCC analyst's identity???

It should be the random prediction in the competition here

In any case, I hope it will be somebody good. He has pretty big shoes to fill.

JorritVD · 23 Apr 2008, 13:43 (Ref:2184873)

weight ballast for Valencia(why does Thompson doesn't have 30kg?):
56 kg R. Rydell
40 kg J. Gené,
39 kg G. Tarquini
32 kg Y. Muller, T. Monteiro
30 kg J. M. Pérez-Aicart, A. Lvov, A. Smetsky
20 kg T. Coronel
14 kg A. Priaulx
11 kg J. Müller
9 kg F. Porteiro
6 kg N. Larini
3 kg A. Farfus, A. Menu
1 kg O. Tielemans

Sodemo · 23 Apr 2008, 14:04 (Ref:2184888)

I think they would have to gag Cleland too much, a dream though it would be to have him behind the mic, I think he would just speak his mind too much and be another "James Hunt"...

Probably Kelvin Burt, he has done commentry before.

Bramzel · 23 Apr 2008, 15:18 (Ref:2184926)

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Originally Posted by JorritVD

weight ballast for Valencia(why does Thompson doesn't have 30kg?)

Probably because they signed up (and paid?) for a full season.

Martin Haven · 24 Apr 2008, 16:00 (Ref:2185841)

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Originally Posted by Bramzel

Probably because they signed up (and paid?) for a full season.

That's true but the FIA press release about new penalty weights showed this: A 30 kg ballast will automatically be allocated to each driver entered on a race-byrace
basis on the occasion of his first appearance in the championship.

Which suggests that Thommo SHOULD have a 30ky penalty, as it is his first appearance...

trying to find somewhere whether everyone had +30 in Brazil or not... if so, Thommo will do, as will the two Golden Bears Hondas...

and the Ladas (which have not yet appeared in official paperwork or on the website)

Martin Haven · 24 Apr 2008, 16:14 (Ref:2185848)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Haven

That's true but the FIA press release about new penalty weights showed this: A 30 kg ballast will automatically be allocated to each driver entered on a race-byrace
basis on the occasion of his first appearance in the championship.

Which suggests that Thommo SHOULD have a 30ky penalty, as it is his first appearance...

trying to find somewhere whether everyone had +30 in Brazil or not... if so, Thommo will do, as will the two Golden Motors Hondas...

and the Ladas (which have not yet appeared in official paperwork or on the website)

finally checked on the website and the table of success ballast shows everyone at zero for Brazil - hence zero for Thommo and Golden Motors Hondas...

although, I seem to think that the 30kg new-boy ballast was to hinder 'unguided missile' points-scorers from interfering with Championships in the final few races, where teams can be tempted to bring in 'ringers' to help their boy win the crown... wonder why it's been taken away??

stedevil · 24 Apr 2008, 19:05 (Ref:2185979)

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Originally Posted by Martin Haven

A 30 kg ballast will automatically be allocated to each driver entered on a race-byrace basis on the occasion of his first appearance in the championship.

I highlighted the part in blue that should be the difference Bramzel mentions. If you paied full season, you are not a "race-by-race" participant, thus no 30kg on first entry.

Martin Haven · 24 Apr 2008, 19:17 (Ref:2185994)

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Originally Posted by stedevil

I highlighted the part in blue that should be the difference Bramzel mentions. If you paied full season, you are not a "race-by-race" participant, thus no 30kg on first entry.

hmmm... yes, I agree with that reading

just as well no-one pays me to know about these things, or to speak English properly

Martin Haven · 25 Apr 2008, 15:11 (Ref:2186672)

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Originally Posted by Bramzel

He's probably British and has a touring car background, as well as some charisma and technical knowledge. Cleland then perhaps?

Spot-on... great guesswork!

Matt · 25 Apr 2008, 18:39 (Ref:2186876)

Oh snap. Cleland will be awesome to listen to.

Bramzel · 28 Apr 2008, 11:57 (Ref:2189088)

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Originally Posted by werner

Another petrol Seat on the grid. That makes 3.

Not a petrol but a diesel for Perez-Aicart: http://touringcartimes.com/news.php?id=2222

Matt_S · 28 Apr 2008, 12:10 (Ref:2189104)

Apart from its already been announced that he is running with SUNRED in a petrol car and it was a petrol car he tested recently - the same car as Coronel.

Bramzel · 28 Apr 2008, 12:43 (Ref:2189143)

Hmm, fiawtcc.com indeed refers to a petrol car: http://www.fiawtcc.com/fiawtcc/sport_sto1548467.shtml

Motorsport-Total refers to a Diesel though, but in this case I think the WTCC site is a bit more reliable.
http://www.motorsport-total.com/mehr..._08042202.html

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