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View Poll Results: Race 1: Murphy Vs Ingall
Ingall should have been penalised 13 18.84%
Racing Incident 12 17.39%
Murphy, get over it mate, quit whinging 44 63.77%
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Old 26 Oct 2003, 07:55 (Ref:763335)   #1
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Murphy Vs Ingall

OK, this has been a pretty big taling point of the weekend, sure, Ingall won both races (go rusty ) but but how do you personally feel about the incident in race 1?

do you
a) agree with the murphster, Ingall should be penalised
b) agree with stewards, Racing Incident
c) agree with Ingall 'Murphy should quit whinging'
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Old 26 Oct 2003, 08:00 (Ref:763343)   #2
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If we r talking about the Pit incident I don't see the problem it was close but legal just becuase it was tight doesn't mean it was wrong!
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Old 26 Oct 2003, 08:08 (Ref:763346)   #3
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i agree fully
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Old 26 Oct 2003, 08:15 (Ref:763349)   #4
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mac should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridmac should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridmac should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
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If we r talking about the Pit incident I don't see the problem it was close but legal just becuase it was tight doesn't mean it was wrong!
This may be true, but I want consistency from the officials. The fact is Murph had to take evasive action. It is the Ingall car controller's job to make sure that this doesn't have to happen, and as such Murph has every right to be a little dirty about it.
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Old 26 Oct 2003, 08:23 (Ref:763354)   #5
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not if ie Murph speed limiter is on the high end of 40 . Basicly he was realesed in front of Murph there was NO hit it was ok
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Old 26 Oct 2003, 08:28 (Ref:763359)   #6
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i wonder if the a pillar rule applies in pit lane??!!
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Old 26 Oct 2003, 08:32 (Ref:763362)   #7
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Old 26 Oct 2003, 08:34 (Ref:763364)   #8
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I agree with MarkWebber there was no problem with just Murphy whinging cause he got beaten by a better and faster car
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Old 26 Oct 2003, 08:46 (Ref:763374)   #9
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If the decision was handed down against Ingall for this so called incident, can you imagine how much more sterile this series would become. I mean it was that close, that a slight percentage must be allowed in the rule for a driver at least having a go and creating some excitment for the fans and making the racing interesting. I believe the decision handed down was correct and it was good to see that Greg Murphy accepted this and got on with the job as well.
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Old 26 Oct 2003, 09:11 (Ref:763389)   #10
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I'm sorry but drivers shouldn't be forced to take evasive action in pitlane.
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Old 26 Oct 2003, 09:16 (Ref:763394)   #11
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If you want to penalise cars for safety reasons i believe that the penalty must be as strict in pit lane as it is on the circuit as there is a strong chance of chaos if those two had collided there.
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Old 26 Oct 2003, 09:16 (Ref:763395)   #12
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is putting your foot on the brake for half a second evasive action though?
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Old 26 Oct 2003, 09:22 (Ref:763400)   #13
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I think the situation was a fair way off a major collision. That's right all that had to apply was a bit of evasive action as mentioned previous.
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Old 26 Oct 2003, 09:34 (Ref:763414)   #14
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i mean peeps seriously, the tiny little scrapes that happen on the track, ppl dont get penalised for, because there was no advantage to be taken, the same applied for the pit incident.
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Old 26 Oct 2003, 09:50 (Ref:763422)   #15
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The track and pitlane are two totally separate environments. Due to the proximity of other cars, people running around and working in pitlane, regulations should be much tighter there than anywhere else.

I'm happy with the officials' decision, as long as that standard is maintained.
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Old 26 Oct 2003, 09:50 (Ref:763423)   #16
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i mean peeps seriously, the tiny little scrapes that happen on the track, ppl dont get penalised for, because there was no advantage to be taken, the same applied for the pit incident.
I agree stido, there is a whole lot of p$ssing and whining going on over an incident that was a total non-event. Spud didn’t have the pace on Ingall in either race so can’t we just get over it people.
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Old 26 Oct 2003, 10:13 (Ref:763440)   #17
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Everybody screams about consistency from officials. That is what they have been getting all along.

Being wrong all the time is consistency.
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Old 26 Oct 2003, 10:26 (Ref:763450)   #18
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I agree stido, there is a whole lot of p$ssing and whining going on over an incident that was a total non-event. Spud didn’t have the pace on Ingall in either race so can’t we just get over it people.
Agree with you kaos..Murp said nothing when Skaife ploughed

into him at the Phillip Island round-he couldnt complain

to his engine supplier ...could he!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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FORD FALCON #9 SBR/HAVOLINE -RUSSELL INGALL should be heartily congraulated on a great 2 drives and the double win.

i remember another very winning FORD BOSS TRANSAM MUSTANG driver ALLAN MOFFAT who carried #9 to many many victories!!!!

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Old 26 Oct 2003, 14:42 (Ref:763663)   #19
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The rule says you must give way to those already in the fast lane, and this is the second time SBR have released a car too early. Penalty should stand
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Old 26 Oct 2003, 19:33 (Ref:763848)   #20
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Murph said at the press conference on Sunday he accepts the stewards decision - looks like he is over it ??
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Old 26 Oct 2003, 23:45 (Ref:764009)   #21
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its not the best pit lane set up i have ever seen, need a wider fast lane perhaps ??

Also these teams knew the importance of getting out ahead of other cars so they aint going to wait 5 secs and let the entire field go past..... and hey lets face it, when ingall got released the fast lane was clear !!!!
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Old 27 Oct 2003, 00:12 (Ref:764015)   #22
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40km is the problem it is so slow that it causes close calls and as Murphy could not pass Ingall on the track he had to try on something. Just look at the Ambrose entry to the pits when he was behind Skaife that was a highlight.
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Old 27 Oct 2003, 04:31 (Ref:764091)   #23
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I wonder what Marcus thinks of the consistency of the stewards in light of his Willowbank indiscetion. The fast lane was probably clear when he was released as well.
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Old 27 Oct 2003, 07:37 (Ref:764191)   #24
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I agree with MarkWebber there was no problem with just Murphy whinging cause he got beaten by a better and faster car
Don't forget the hardened professional with years of racing experience in the tough melting pot of Europe, skillfully guiding his ("I love my number 9 car") weapon through the streets in the style to which I have grown accustomed.
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Old 27 Oct 2003, 08:49 (Ref:764258)   #25
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Murf had a cracked front spoiler because of the nerf to the bumper... I was certain Ingall was going to be rubbed out...
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