Chris van der Drift

[Piglet]

Originally Posted by F3 Rocks

Not sure of the relevance of mentioning Henry I hope that's not being used as some kind of publicity seeking mechanism?

Wow what a sceptic........ why so negative?[/QUOTE]

I don't get the relevance that's all...

[RichardRenes]

The crash of Henry was completely different.. there is nothing you can do if something that weighs that much hits you on the head with 200 km/h. All the insurances in the world could not have helped Henry sadly

Back to the regular tread

[fastfrenchy]

yes it is obvious insurance couldnt help henry but Chris Van der Drift is alive and everyone should be happy for this reason.

maybe if chris didnt have the insurance its the fault of him, or maybe its the fault of the manager. maybe we will never know. But i believe if the manager is a decent man and a good manager he will give chris the help now when he needs it most and not leave his driver in this situation. Its normal to help especially if its true the manager keeps the prize money. No one knows who his manager is. Maybe he hides himself because he’s ashamed?

[sceptic]

Originally Posted by JimW

Non UK residents are not entitled to NHS treatment.

It's not that simple.

Commonwealth citizens (which Chris is, being from New Zealand) who are resident in the UK (he lives in Northampton) and have a work permit which allows them to be employed or self-employed in the UK, are entitled to free treatment on the NHS.

So either he was here without a work permit (in which case it's all going to get worse for him because he'll be deported next), or it's just the non-NHS rehab which isn't covered.

[JimW]

Originally Posted by JimW

Non UK residents are not entitled to NHS treatment.

Originally Posted by sceptic

It's not that simple.

Commonwealth citizens (which Chris is, being from New Zealand) who are resident in the UK (he lives in Northampton) and have a work permit which allows them to be employed or self-employed in the UK, are entitled to free treatment on the NHS.

So either he was here without a work permit (in which case it's all going to get worse for him because he'll be deported next), or it's just the non-NHS rehab which isn't covered.

I'm sorry but his entitlement to free NHS treatment is exactly that simple. The test is ORDINARY RESIDENCE. Nothing to do with nationality, the Commonwealth or a work permit.

Originally Posted by JimW

Originally Posted by Dept of Health
Anyone who is not ordinarily resident is subject to the National Health Service (Charges to Overseas Visitors) Regulations 1989, as amended. These regulations place a responsibility on NHS hospitals to establish whether a person is ordinarily resident; or exempt from charges under one of a number of exemption categories; or liable for charges.

. . .

All treatment given by staff at a hospital or by staff employed by a hospital may be subject to a charge with the following exceptions, which are free to all:

Treatment given in an accident and emergency department (excludes emergency treatment given elsewhere in the hospital); . . .

(The other exemptions quoted are not relevant to this case.)

Regards

Jim

(Ordinary residence is a complicated legal concept but none of the complications would seem to affect this case. IMHO and INAL of course (but I have had, in a previous incarnation, to struggle with the concept of ordinary residence.)

[F3 Rocks]

Chris holds dual citizenship New Zealand and Dutch so dont worry

[JimW]

Originally Posted by F3 Rocks

Chris holds dual citizenship New Zealand and Dutch so dont worry

Maybe, but citizenship does not make a difference.

Regards

Jim

[sceptic]

Originally Posted by JimW

I'm sorry but his entitlement to free NHS treatment is exactly that simple. The test is ORDINARY RESIDENCE. Nothing to do with nationality, the Commonwealth or a work permit.

You don't have to have ordinary residence if you are legally working in the UK:

[Those] engaging in employment with an employer who has his principal place of business in the UK, or who is a self-employed person whose principal place of business is in the UK is fully exempt from National Health Service (NHS) hospital charges in England.

[RichardRenes]

Anyway, this tread was not meant to be about Chris' legal status of citizenship

[ensign14]

So are the Dutch paying for it then?

[bella]

Originally Posted by RichardRenes

Anyway, this tread was not meant to be about Chris' legal status of citizenship

while it remains to be proven that it's down to negligence on his managers behalf that he doesn't have health insurance...

[F3 Rocks]

Originally Posted by bella

while it remains to be proven that it's down to negligence on his managers behalf that he doesn't have health insurance...

I think that is a side issue now and not our business. Helping Chris recover is more important

This could be a way for us to get involved

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VAN-DER-DRIFT-...ets_Tickets_LE

[bella]

official press release, which now seems to paint a far less passive aggressive picture, and suggests the funds are for a specialist course of treatment:

http://tentenths.com/news/showentry.php?e=1083

[strider]

Don't be misled by that Press Release when it refers to a start time of 17:00.

That's when the competitors arrive. The gates are not being opened to the public until 18:30. I've just been notified as someone will probably attend.

[strider]

Originally Posted by strider

Don't be misled by that Press Release when it refers to a start time of 17:00.

That's when the competitors arrive. The gates are not being opened to the public until 18:30. I've just been notified as someone will probably attend.

Correction: public access will start at 18:00 and the event itself starts at 18:30.

[F3 Rocks]

2 more F1 drivers will be attending...........and their names are down to race

[strider]

The only pity is that at the moment the forecast is for heavy rain on Tuesday.

[courageous]

No rain at the moment here in MK (about a mile from the track).

quick update on the attendees:

Mark Webber, Karun Chandock, Fairuz Fauzy, Jonathan Kennard, Jean-Eric Vergne, Oli Webb, Daniel Ricciardo, Alexander Sims, Brendon Hartley & Tom Blomqvist.

Also team Eurosport with Martin Haven & John Hindaugh driving.