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12 May 2016, 04:58 (Ref:3641039) | #1 | |||
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James Warburton declares V8 Supercars the best motorsports ‘product on the planet’
V8s the best motorsport on earth says Warburton
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12 May 2016, 05:40 (Ref:3641046) | #2 | ||
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Certainly the best touring car series and not many other series can boast events such as Clipsal and Bathurst.
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12 May 2016, 06:39 (Ref:3641054) | #3 | ||
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I declare this statement to be hyperbole
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12 May 2016, 07:13 (Ref:3641059) | #4 | ||
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Reading the actual quotes from him, he was talking about the number of different winners so far this year and how close the competition is.
In that regard, I get what he means but for sure there's some hyperbole in it, nothing unusual for the head of a series to be doing that tbh. |
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12 May 2016, 07:40 (Ref:3641062) | #5 | |
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Not this planet.
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12 May 2016, 08:45 (Ref:3641071) | #6 | |
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If I was getting interviewed by one of my employee's, on a TV show about the business I run, i would likely be saying exactly the same sort of stuff.
Doesn't mean it actually means anything though.... |
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12 May 2016, 10:32 (Ref:3641091) | #7 | ||
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Spoken by a true marketing hack. Preaching his spin to a domestic market of V8SC fans, media execs, sponsors and stakeholders.
The guy is good, I'll give him that. OK crowds, OK ratings (if you can believe them) and somehow he can convert that into "Best series on the planet"..... He maybe should have gone with best in Australia, instead of, best on the planet. He's obviously from "planet Warburton", where there's lot's of rainbows and everyone has a pony. As I said, his bleating is for the locals to chew over and savor. Has this bloke never watched WEC, BlancpainGT, MotoGP or any one of many more m/sport categories around the world?.....obviously not! |
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12 May 2016, 11:32 (Ref:3641108) | #9 | ||
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The likes of WEC and MotoGP mentioned above are proper motor racing contests with less emphasis on "parity" and "entertainment", and more emphasis on "racing" and "sport" Supercars provide a good show, and is fun to watch, but you can't really take it all too seriously given the rules they play by. |
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12 May 2016, 12:25 (Ref:3641117) | #11 | |||
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James Warburton declares V8 Supercars the best motorsports ‘product on the planet’
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Indeed. There's a lot of things wrong with the category but it's far away the best touring car series in the world. For sheer numbers, factory v privateers, the big events like Clipsal and Bathurst etc. DTM cars are pretty cool but the racing is boring to watch. BTCC isn't too bad but the cars don't have that visual excitement that the V8s and DTM have nor the depth of talent. WTCC is in the same situation. Best Motorsport involves a lot of hyperbole as you can't seriously compare touring cars with Sportscars with open wheelers with ??? Etc |
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12 May 2016, 13:52 (Ref:3641133) | #12 | |
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I think the V8 circus is as good as it is due to our isolation from the rest of the world and the lack of other big categories.
So we end up with a large majority of our top drivers, teams and personnel all in the one series. |
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Haters gonna hate but if you compare the total package V8SC is one of the best maybe even the best series in the world.
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12 May 2016, 21:43 (Ref:3641229) | #16 | |
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its amusing the the OS posters talk up the series while a number of Aussie posters talk it down. The great Aussie tall poppy syndrome I guess
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13 May 2016, 00:34 (Ref:3641249) | #17 | ||
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I'm amazed anyone is outraged by a CEO saying his company is the best.
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13 May 2016, 01:35 (Ref:3641254) | #18 | ||
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Has been the best touring car series for most of the past 15 years.Closeness of results and racing can't be the sole or even major criteria though or Moto 3 would slay everything else.
From a sporting sense it is a long way behind F1,Moto GP and WEC although what makes those series great is completely different to the strengths of V8 Supercars. |
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13 May 2016, 04:38 (Ref:3641263) | #19 | ||
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To be honest, I agree with him as far as the racing product goes. The racing is close, is not overly aero-impacted, the cars are undertyred and move around, there are no driver aids, and the cars are RWD.
Compare this to F1, WEC, BTCC, DTM, GT3 and others where aero is so dominant and the cars don't really move around on the road. Rallycross is interesting, but fields small. WRC is effectively dead. NASCAR possibly, but seems very staged. What is left? V8SC just needs to stop the faux safety cars and it'd be just about perfect. |
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13 May 2016, 05:11 (Ref:3641264) | #20 | |
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Can we do a round with a compulsory Zero degree (i.e. neutral) Rear Wing angle?
Increasing braking distances will lead to more overtaking opportunities. The worse the cars are (technically), the harder it is to put in a perfect lap. Fantastic cars are too easy to drive, and ordinary drivers make less mistakes, making overtaking harder to procure. So lets take more aero off with a mandated neutral rear wing, a change that would cost absolutely nothing. Let's keep the driver as the star, not the car. |
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13 May 2016, 07:37 (Ref:3641282) | #22 | ||
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Warby talking to make noise again.
Great to see he made these 'claims' on the safe and stage managed 'Inside Supercars' where there would be zero critique and raucous applause of your own contracted employees. So brave of him to put himself out there like that. I also enjoyed the "v8sc has never been stronger" comment the week following a manufacturer withdrawal and tension amongst other manufacturers. It was almost like he went on TV to deflect attention away from the current Volvo and Malaysian street race troubles |
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13 May 2016, 10:07 (Ref:3641311) | #23 | ||
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I feel like V8's need to determine what their overall vision / objective is and focus on achieving that, as right now it seems like they are torn between sport, parity, entertainment and competition. Manufactured parity and entertainment is perfectly fine when it's a stated goal and consistently applied, same goes for sport and competition. They haven't quite figured this out yet IMO. I also think that passing is still a bit too difficult and although we aren't suffering from crippling aero-push / aero-wash, passing still seems too difficult at times. But yes, that's me nitpicking, as it is a fantastic series overall...but there is still much to be done to secure a successful future - sitting idle is the biggest risk of all.... |
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13 May 2016, 12:17 (Ref:3641344) | #25 | ||
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And don't get me wrong, I don't rate SGT so highly specifically because they focus on entertainment, I rate them because I've not once switched off after a race and felt like I saw something wrong, controversial, questionable, etc - what you see is what you get, exactly what it says on the tin. It's for that exact reason that I can't stomach NASCAR. And to clarify, I'm also completely ok with F1 for being consistent in their objectives, even if it does mean a lack of variety. If Supercars wants manufacturer / team success to be decided purely on sporting / technical merit, that's fine - but then they need to get rid of things like minimum fuel drops, compulsory pit stops, any rule or technicality designed to artificially close gaps that are only there due to policies that specifically create them. This years Clipsal 500 was a bit of a head shaker and whilst the action this past round at Barbagallo was nothing short of outstanding, there's something seriously wrong when 3/4 of the way through, no one has any idea of who is actually winning the race! I love the series, I really do, but they've got a bad habit of making things vastly over-complicated which has the potential to make things really difficult in the future. I'm not hating for the sake of hating, I'm raising issues in the hope that the series can somehow be the best that it can be. I can't be the only one thinking like this...or am I going a bit mad? |
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