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Old 18 Nov 2017, 13:56 (Ref:3781236)   #701
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Any news on whether Signatech Alpine will continue in LMP2? Alpine is a car manufacturer once again and manufacturers are not permitted in P2. Could they be the mystery Ginetta customer?
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Old 18 Nov 2017, 14:06 (Ref:3781240)   #702
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Any news on whether Signatech Alpine will continue in LMP2? Alpine is a car manufacturer once again and manufacturers are not permitted in P2. Could they be the mystery Ginetta customer?
I believe Alpine are "in talks" with the ACO about remaining in LMP2. Which is a bit of a joke, IMO.

As far as I'm aware Alpine are not the mystery customer.
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Old 18 Nov 2017, 16:13 (Ref:3781285)   #703
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So, are they going to do something to balance the hybrids with the non-hybrids? A Toyota parade at the front of the field is something the series could without.
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Old 18 Nov 2017, 20:38 (Ref:3781367)   #704
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So, are they going to do something to balance the hybrids with the non-hybrids? A Toyota parade at the front of the field is something the series could without.
Realistically ACO can just increase fuel flow and fuel tank for private lmp1, cut some power and add some extra kg to toyota.
Of course, a real balance will never happen.... but toyota will find a way to lose next le mans anyway.
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Old 18 Nov 2017, 20:41 (Ref:3781368)   #705
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but toyota will find a way to lose next le mans anyway.
With Alonso's luck at anything in recent times, that'll certainly happen.

OR...

... the two jinxes collide into obliteration and an Alonso-driven Toyota wins Le Mans in 2018 by also completing over 400 laps.
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Old 18 Nov 2017, 20:44 (Ref:3781369)   #706
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With Alonso's luck at anything in recent times, that'll certainly happen.

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... the two jinxes collide into obliteration and an Alonso-driven Toyota wins Le Mans in 2018 by also completing over 400 laps.
Double negative. I like it.

If they manage not to win next year, I blame Honda.
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Actually I didn't consider alonso in the equation.
I was thinking about an hybrid or engine failure. Or another random thumb up fonzie riding the pit lane
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Plenty of races Toyota just had bad luck. They don't just throw away races everytime, but all over that's how it's being portrayed. You can't even think up some of the weird stuff that happened to them. Next year I think the private lmp1's will be 850 or 830kg(?) and have over 700hp. I know they'll have more fuel and fuel flow allowed so their pit stops will be longer.
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Old 19 Nov 2017, 06:55 (Ref:3781441)   #709
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Next year I think the private lmp1's will be 850 or 830kg(?) and have over 700hp. I know they'll have more fuel and fuel flow allowed so their pit stops will be longer.
I doubt the increased power will make much of a difference, when the Toyota punches out of a corner with a 1000hp. They'll be long gone halfway through the straight. The only solution I really see is that they limit the power of the hybrid boost massively.
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I doubt the increased power will make much of a difference, when the Toyota punches out of a corner with a 1000hp. They'll be long gone halfway through the straight. The only solution I really see is that they limit the power of the hybrid boost massively.
"Changes to LMP1 technical and sporting regulations from 2018/2019 regulations
• From 2018/2019, and in the future, there will only be one category (and consequently one classification) in LMP1
• To make it as accessible as possible to join this category from the 2018-2019 season onwards, the level of performance of the current non-hybrid LMP1 regulations managed via equivalence of technologies will be aligned with the current LMP1 hybrid regulations.
• Each competitor entered in LMP1 will have the same potential of performance independent of the type engine power used. Very clearly there will always be a slight advantage for the hybrid engine in terms of autonomy related to lower fuel consumption.
• There will be no changes made to the current chassis regulations (only LMP1 chassis will be eligible) but to facilitate the access to LMP1, more choice and engine power options will be offered. Depending on the selected criteria, an Equivalence of Technology will be implemented between turbo compressed and normally aspirated engines (as done in the past between petrol and diesel).
All these decisions will apply for the next two seasons."

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Old 19 Nov 2017, 14:44 (Ref:3781491)   #711
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BMW testing seems to be progressing well. 24 hour test at Paul Ricard completed.

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2017/1...at-ricard.html
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Gerard Neveu also confirmed that the FIA WEC is likely return to the Bahrain International Circuit in the 2019/20 season, Neveu and circuit owner Sheik Salmand revealing the desire for the WEC to hold races in the Middle East once again after the 2018/19 ‘Super Season’, in which Bahrain didn’t make the cut.

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I think 2019-20 then will be sth like

Sep - Silverstone
Oct - Fuji
Nov - Shanghai
Dec - Bahrain
Mar - Sebring
May - Spa
Jun - Le Mans

Or maybe February for that no-crowd race
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The new driver ratings are out. Quick question: DragonSpeed is going to LMP1 with Henrik Hedman and Ben Hanley. The thing is that Hedman is still rated as a bronze. I thought you had to be at least a silver to drive a LMP1. Or did the ACO/WEC change the rules?
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They probably just transfer him into Silver, these grades have always been "anything goes" just like Willie Scott sings in Temple of Doom.
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They probably just transfer him into Silver, these grades have always been "anything goes" just like Willie Scott sings in Temple of Doom.
“They” had their chance to do so and didn’t. The only way Hedman becomes a silver now is to appeal his tentative 2018 bronze grade.
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[I]

I think 2019-20 then will be sth like
2 more races will be fantastic

Aug - Nurburgring

Sep - Silverstone
Oct - Fuji
Nov - Shanghai
Dec - Bahrain
Mar - Sebring
Apr - Monza
May - Spa
Jun - Le Mans
All low downforce circuit in the first part of the year until Le mans and after that high downforce circuit expt Fuji.

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I'd like to drop that stupid sebring WEC part2.
Add Monza to the calendar would be great if sebring will be dropped for real, otherwise it would be required a huge DHL airplane or shipping effort to transfer private teams cars from florida to europe in a so short time. It was one of the reason that made ACO cut 12h sebring after 2012 WEC season if am I not wrong.
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I'd like to drop that stupid sebring WEC part2.
Add Monza to the calendar would be great if sebring will be dropped for real, otherwise it would be required a huge DHL airplane or shipping effort to transfer private teams cars from florida to europe in a so short time. It was one of the reason that made ACO cut 12h sebring after 2012 WEC season if am I not wrong.
To maintain its world championship status, the WEC needs to have races on at least three continents. So if not Sebring, then the WEC needs to have a race somewhere else in North America, South America, Africa, Australia, or Antarctica on a FIA Grade 1 or 2 circuit.
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“They” had their chance to do so and didn’t. The only way Hedman becomes a silver now is to appeal his tentative 2018 bronze grade.
Not looked at those lists for a while. Notable movers in the provisional 2018 list:

Jonny Adam - Gold to Platinum
Marco Bonanomi - Platinum to Gold
Enzo Guibbert - Silver to Gold
Euan Hankey - Silver to Gold
Matevos Isaakyan - Silver to Gold
Jonny Kane - Platinum to Gold
Tom Kristensen - Platinum to Gold (should be honorary Platinum for life!)
Thomas Laurent - Silver to Gold
Pippa Mann - Gold to Silver
Seb Morris - Silver to Gold
Andre Negrao - Silver to Gold
Johnny O'Connell - Gold to Silver
Alessandro Pier Guidi - Gold to Platinum
Spencer Pumpelly - Gold to Silver
Charlie Robertson - Silver to Gold
Leo Roussel - Silver to Gold
Alexander Sims - Gold to Platinum
Mark Skaife - Gold to Silver
Dries Vanthoor - Silver to Gold
Liam Williamson - Silver to Gold

Some of those young silver-to-gold movers will be casting around for work, surely.
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So, are they going to do something to balance the hybrids with the non-hybrids? A Toyota parade at the front of the field is something the series could without.
People kept asking for the LMP900 days back. The fates have delivered.
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2 more races will be fantastic
IIRC they want 7 race calendar now, so we pretty much already know what circuits there will be now that Middle East moneybag event is -probably- back on plan (well unless they stupidly ditch Sebring again)

IMO these winter seasons shouldn't start until October. It's absurd if you have bigger gaps inside the season than you have between the seasons.
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Only reason Kristensen is gold is because of age (platinum rated driver over the age of 50). In '14 Emerson Fittipaldi was a bronze as a platinum rated driver over the age of 60, BTW.

Not that it matters, as Tom is retired from active competition.
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And I thought that the point for the winter season was one, to avoid as much as possible the saturation that NASCAR and F1 have over the middle of the year, and two, in the case of the ACO, have LM be the season finale?

IMO, it doesn't help much when you don't do much racing in the winter, but you can't fight the climate and mother nature.
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To maintain its world championship status, the WEC needs to have races on at least three continents. So if not Sebring, then the WEC needs to have a race somewhere else in North America, South America, Africa, Australia, or Antarctica on a FIA Grade 1 or 2 circuit.
I must be time for Antarctica to have their chance - or was that just Silverstone in April......
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