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Old 20 Jan 2018, 16:06 (Ref:3794015)   #251
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Shedden is a top touring car driver, would be fantastic to see him in the World Cup
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Old 20 Jan 2018, 16:16 (Ref:3794019)   #252
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Would be great news.

What does this mean for Craft-Bamboo + SEAT? They were sort of factory team of SEAT.
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Old 20 Jan 2018, 16:18 (Ref:3794020)   #253
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Sorry for the subject change, but does anyone know what happened to the MINI TCR project from LAP Motorsports/MINI USA?
They've been very quite on the project for a while....
On their facebook no recent updates.
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Old 20 Jan 2018, 16:43 (Ref:3794027)   #254
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Several sources claim that at least 2 of the EKS S1 cars have been purchased by the Belgian team Comtoyou Racing. French Benoît Tréluyer and Belgian Enzo Ide will apparently drive for the team in WRX 2018.
Mr Comtoyou has plenty of money...
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Old 22 Jan 2018, 09:42 (Ref:3794261)   #255
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About time that Shedden prove that he is top driver.
Three titles in a competitive series are more than enough to already prove he's a top driver.
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Old 22 Jan 2018, 09:44 (Ref:3794262)   #256
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What does this mean for Craft-Bamboo + SEAT? They were sort of factory team of SEAT.
Not in a good place right now.
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Old 22 Jan 2018, 18:27 (Ref:3794350)   #257
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Three titles in a competitive series are more than enough to already prove he's a top driver.
No doubt he is top driver.
But international racing is another level
Here we have in little N 30 drivers that can qualify in 1 second on every track.
And for example Viktor Davidovski was three times champion and no one ever heard of him when he announced plans for TCR International.
If you don't follow national series you would never hear of lot fantastic drivers.
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Old 22 Jan 2018, 18:53 (Ref:3794357)   #258
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BTCC is the most competitive touring car championship in Europe, Shedden in one or two seasons will be a title contender for sure

I hope he will be on the pace in the Audi straight away
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Old 23 Jan 2018, 04:56 (Ref:3794468)   #259
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On their facebook no recent updates.
BMW would not approve the project. So it's not happening (I race other things in IMSA). This is what I've heard in the paddock
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Old 23 Jan 2018, 08:16 (Ref:3794479)   #260
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Here we have in little N 30 drivers that can qualify in 1 second on every track.
You make me laugh. It's 30 within 8tenths at times in the BTCC. Think you should watch some. Races are here http://www.itv.com/btcc/races.

Are you forgetting his pole position the first time he raced a TCR car?

There are national series, and there are nationals series.
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Old 23 Jan 2018, 08:58 (Ref:3794486)   #261
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You make me laugh. It's 30 within 8tenths at times in the BTCC. Think you should watch some. Races are here http://www.itv.com/btcc/races.

Are you forgetting his pole position the first time he raced a TCR car?

There are national series, and there are nationals series.
Yeah. Like Snetterton this year with only 6 cars in 1 second?
I watch BTCC for 10 years and no doubt they are best national touring series.
But would you race in BTCC where you won three titles or go to WTCR to look for a new challenge?
I already said that I have no doubt that Shedden is great driver. As you said the TCR pole is proof.
And why do this make you laugh? You think that guys from our Serbian championship couldn't keep up with BTCC guys?
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Old 23 Jan 2018, 09:13 (Ref:3794487)   #262
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BMW would not approve the project. So it's not happening (I race other things in IMSA). This is what I've heard in the paddock
Thats a real shame, i was really looking forward to seeing the MINI TCR car.
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Old 23 Jan 2018, 09:16 (Ref:3794488)   #263
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You think that guys from our Serbian championship couldn't keep up with BTCC guys?
Yes.
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Old 23 Jan 2018, 09:18 (Ref:3794489)   #264
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Yes.
What he said
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Old 23 Jan 2018, 09:34 (Ref:3794493)   #265
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And how does we judge driver quality?
My favourite BTCC driver Colin Turkington was great in WTCC, but when he raced full season in STCC he only managed fifth position at the end of the season
Jason Plato only manage P2 at Brands Hatch (home race) in WTCC with pointless races in Mexico and Belgium
Adam Morgan races in CTCC. P2 in debut and then two times P5, P10 and P16.
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Old 23 Jan 2018, 11:05 (Ref:3794506)   #266
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Well, in fairness, most of the drivers that raced in Btcc then won Wtcc title or races. Just to make examples: Huff, Priaulx, Menu, Rydell, Thompson, Chilton... I think that also Muller made a big step up thanks to the Btcc experience, Turkington also defeats BMW official drivers when he drove the 320 WSR car. He then raced in STCC and grab no wins, but it was the first year in a strong national championship...

But I have a great respect for all the drivers that come from national series, this year also our Colciago had a strong season, great to see also Borkovic winning wih the Alfa
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Well, in fairness, most of the drivers that raced in Btcc then won Wtcc title or races. Just to make examples: Huff, Priaulx, Menu, Rydell, Thompson, Chilton... I think that also Muller made a big step up thanks to the Btcc experience, Turkington also defeats BMW official drivers when he drove the 320 WSR car. He then raced in STCC and grab no wins, but it was the first year in a strong national championship...

But I have a great respect for all the drivers that come from national series, this year also our Colciago had a strong season, great to see also Borkovic winning wih the Alfa
Yeah.
I also have great respect for every driver, but to say that some guy from other championships can't compete against BTCC drivers is nonsense.
How can someone say that guys from ex-YU countries can't compete vs BTCC guys?
As you said Borkovic score two wins for Alfa, Stefanovski had bad 2016 in ETCC because he never raced on any circuit before and look he fought for 2017 title. Pavlovic raced against F1 drivers and he wasn't in F1 just because he didn't have money, just like Guerrieri.
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Yeah.
but to say that some guy from other championships can't compete against BTCC drivers is nonsense.
How can someone say that guys from ex-YU countries can't compete vs BTCC guys?

Pavlovic raced against F1 drivers and he wasn't in F1 just because he didn't have money, just like Guerrieri.
I agree, if they have talent they could beat the BTCC guys

The good thing of TCR is that there is room for everyone, I hope to see a good diversity in driver terms
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Yeah.
I also have great respect for every driver, but to say that some guy from other championships can't compete against BTCC drivers is nonsense.
How can someone say that guys from ex-YU countries can't compete vs BTCC guys?
As you said Borkovic score two wins for Alfa, Stefanovski had bad 2016 in ETCC because he never raced on any circuit before and look he fought for 2017 title. Pavlovic raced against F1 drivers and he wasn't in F1 just because he didn't have money, just like Guerrieri.
I don't think anyone was disrespecting drivers from national championships at all. Just trying to counter the point you made about Gordon Shedden having to prove himself in WTCC. He has already done that in one of the toughest national touring car championships in the world. I would expect him to be immediately competitive in WTCC, much the same as he was at the back end of last year. Provided the BOP doesn't work against him, as the Audis were pretty hamstrung last year by BOP I seem to remember.
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Old 23 Jan 2018, 18:14 (Ref:3794584)   #270
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I am certainly looking forward to how he gets on, it will be a great advert for the BTCC if he does well, which I’m sure he will. I applaud him for taking on a new challenge. We saw how well the likes of Colin, Tom C and Nash have got in WTCC, no reason why Flash can’t go well too
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Success in multiple high profile series gives extra value to a career. IMO this is something Plato is missing in his career.
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I would have hoped to have more confirmed teams and drivers by the end of January. What is the date when the teams have to confirm that they are competing in the WTCR?
It seems weird that a new team like Comtoyou has confirmed both drivers, while big teams who have been competing for years have not even shown interest or anything. I thought that a 26 car line up was going to be a low amount of cars, but I'm slightly starting to worry, now.
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The massive changes to the championship have come very late, and I am not surprised that announcements have been slow.

Hopefully some good news is forthcoming soon.
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Very optimistic and more based on fantasy than on rumors, but let´s say we´ve got these 13 teams next year:

Comtoyou - Audi: Dupont / Panis (confirmed)
Lukoil WRT - Audi: Vernay / Shedden (very likely)
DG Sport - Peugeot: tba / tba (likely)
ALL-INKL.COM Münnich - tba: tba / tba (likely)
BRC Racing - Hyundai: tba / tba (likely)
M1RA - tba: tba / tba (possibly)
JAS - tba: tba / tba (possibly)
Zengo - tba: tba / tba (possibly)
ROAL - tba: tba / tba (possibly)
WestCoast Racing - tba: tba / tba (possibly)
Sébastien Loeb Racing - Peugeot: tba / tba (possibly)
Craft-Bamboo - tba: tba / tba (possibly)
GE-Force - tba: tba / tba (possibly)

This would make an excellent field.
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Gianni Morbidelli is struggling with found and will probably miss the WTCR 2018. He is disappointed with the way WTCR took, the budget required is way high for the TCR teams while he knows already that a lot of ex WTCC teams and drivers have their plans sorted out. by Italiaracing

Based on that I think that a lot of TCR teams will miss the 2018, probably in this first year we will see around 20 cars on the grid + some wild cards. For the others there are option of European series or TCR national series
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