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Old 3 Apr 2009, 12:48 (Ref:2432339)   #1
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F3L has a lot of promise if they can keep it on the circuit!
Steward Donnelly

Can anyone tell me what qualifications Donnelly has? Ex Driver? ex owner ? ex flat mate with Gordon Brown ? Would be interested to know his credentials and therefore his value added.
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Old 3 Apr 2009, 12:53 (Ref:2432343)   #2
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I assume you're referring to Alan Donnelly. All I know about him is that he's a former Labour MP and he's from Jarrow (Jarra) in South Tyneside.
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Old 3 Apr 2009, 12:57 (Ref:2432348)   #3
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Old 3 Apr 2009, 13:04 (Ref:2432351)   #4
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Yes, I meant Alan Donnelly. Does he have motor racing experience to your knowledge and is he still an MEP while also working for the FIA ?
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Old 3 Apr 2009, 13:11 (Ref:2432356)   #5
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Yes, I meant Alan Donnelly. Does he have motor racing experience to your knowledge and is he still an MEP while also working for the FIA ?
I don't think he is an MEP anymore and as far as I'm aware, he has no previous involvement in motorsport, though his PR firm previously represented Ferrari.
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Old 3 Apr 2009, 13:21 (Ref:2432368)   #6
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Yes, I meant Alan Donnelly. Does he have motor racing experience to your knowledge and is he still an MEP while also working for the FIA ?
no relation to Martin Donnelly and no apparent racing knowledge. And not an MEP any more.
Wiki is your friend,
"Alan Donnelly, (born 16 July 1957), is a former Labour MEP from Jarrow United Kingdom and leader of the European Parliamentary Labour Party from 1998 to 2005.
He is currently the executive chairman of Sovereign Strategy, a public affairs company that he founded in January 2000.
He is also active in Formula One, representing Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile President Max Mosley at Grands Prix."
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http://www.sovereignstrategy.com/showprofile.asp?id=1
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Old 3 Apr 2009, 13:27 (Ref:2432374)   #7
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I find this page interesting

http://www.sovereignstrategy.com/clients2.asp

It's a little incestuous isn't it; both FIA and FOM are listed as clients and the chief executive is also the permanent steward or whatever he is called.

At least ferrari are no longer listed as clients (they used to be) of course that doesn't mean they aren't as I am sure this isn't an exhaustive list.
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Old 3 Apr 2009, 13:36 (Ref:2432382)   #8
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I find this page interesting

http://www.sovereignstrategy.com/clients2.asp

It's a little incestuous isn't it; both FIA and FOM are listed as clients and the chief executive is also the permanent steward or whatever he is called.

At least ferrari are no longer listed as clients (they used to be) of course that doesn't mean they aren't as I am sure this isn't an exhaustive list.
:-) ...was hoping somebody would look a little further....
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Old 3 Apr 2009, 13:40 (Ref:2432384)   #9
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"Sovereign has built an international reputation for the quality of its strategic advice to global organisations like the FIA. Crucially, Sovereign understands the speed and nature of change in a complex business and political world"

Max Mosley - President, Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile

"Our experience shows that while many professional advisors make claims - Sovereign delivers"

Bernie Ecclestone - Chief Executive, Formula One Management Ltd
oh stop... stop please.. my sides are hurting.
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Old 3 Apr 2009, 14:33 (Ref:2432431)   #10
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As if Bernie needed advice ... *shrugs*
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Old 3 Apr 2009, 14:46 (Ref:2432444)   #11
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As if Bernie needed advice ... *shrugs*
Oh I think he needs it, can't imagine him taking it though
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Old 3 Apr 2009, 14:54 (Ref:2432449)   #12
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Would you have confidence in someone who (a) worked for the Labour Party and (b) was an MEP?

The words snout and trough come to mind.
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Old 3 Apr 2009, 15:02 (Ref:2432458)   #13
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Would you have confidence in someone who (a) worked for the Labour Party and (b) was an MEP?

The words snout and trough come to mind.
you missed out Large, and Deep.
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Would you have confidence in someone who (a) worked for the Labour Party and (b) was an MEP?

The words snout and trough come to mind.
Reports that Mr Donnelly's wife used some of the $100m recouped from McLaren to download Buff Boys 3: Pecs Appeal are unconfirmed.
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Old 3 Apr 2009, 15:50 (Ref:2432499)   #15
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More details of Mr Donnelly

http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns19972.html
http://www.nuclearspin.org/index.php...n_Strategy_Ltd
Dont know if he did anything over Weapons of Mass Destruction but sounds like Tony, Max's sort of guy.
But in the end there is no excuse for a lie even after such a briliant drive.
There is a technological solution. 2 Seater F1 cars with of course a Lawyer in the front to interpret the rules etc.
Max being a lawyer should be in a Maclaren............
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I don't think he is an MEP anymore and as far as I'm aware, he has no previous involvement in motorsport, though his PR firm previously represented Ferrari.
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...his PR firm previously represented Ferrari.
There it is! The smoking gun! This proves it is part of the pro-Ferrari/anti-Mclaren/anti-Lewis conspiracy web!

Goodbye telly!!!!!!
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Old 3 Apr 2009, 17:09 (Ref:2432571)   #17
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I wasn't implying...
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Someone dive deeper and find the link. Ferrari no longer mentioned? Subsidiaries? Or any related companies? Ferrari now taken off the list? I feel sure there must be a connection still somewhere, or theyve lost huge revenue. Maybe, but inclination says.....search
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