Another "new" Porsche series - Page 7

D.R.T. · 6 Apr 2008, 03:58 (Ref:2170841)

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Originally Posted by Sheep Stations

...this series is for Porsche racers...don't like it, don't come. Simple.
...car not eligible but want to come? Sell it and get one that is.Simple.

Fine thats great.

My point is not specifically you, but Porker and others who have said

Quote:

'GT seems actively, today, to be pushing the cars and manufacturer away. I hope they wise up soon so all can go and race.'

to be now so emphatically backing a series that is so narrow in its regs that it in fact pushing people away or telling them to sell and buy new cars to join the series.

It seems highly hypocritical and pushing ones own agenda which has been criticism of other GT/Sportcar championships in Australia.

911Porker · 6 Apr 2008, 10:16 (Ref:2170985)

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Originally Posted by D.R.T.

How is a selective Porshce series an improvement on your issues with the GT series. If cost if your only issue with Aus GT, why not run Intermarque or Pirelli which are apparently cheaper.

Apologies but I dont see how such a series with narrow group of Porsche cars as a solution the situation.

Narrow? All pre 996 NA cars? Please ...

Cost the only issue? Please read my posts again. Carefully. Its a gross over simplification to say I have had a focus on cost.

I may have been unclear so here goes.

It not the GT series or the concept.

Its not the cars.

Its not the competitors.

Whats left?

You connect the dots. I don't mean to be rude so if I appear so I apologise.

When was it a community responsibilty to "save" GT racing in Australia from those that run it?

GT is run by people with a particular vision. Some will race with them. Some wont. I'm one of those who won't (any more).

GT will stand ot fall on its merits. It has merit. Something else critical is missing. As I said, you connect the dots. And don't ask me to step up and try and change it. Right now, I couldn't give a flying continental. Not my job. Screaming into a vacuum is not my idea of a good time.

I'm an adherant to the view "what goes around comes around". Others talk about reaping what you sow. But lets not delve into the realms of metaphysics ...

Some try and act in good faith. Others seek then to leverage that beyond any sensible point and go on and wonder why they are left with a steaming pile of refuse as those who could have made up a large part of the grid say goodbye in the crudest possible terms.

Ever wonder why GT failed to engage with Porsche as a manufacturer? Personality politics is a cheap and nasty excuse for failing to understand what makes the world go around. Its also inane.

My basic point. I once raced with the GT's. Never again. Why? I don't like them or what they are doing.

If this series fails it wont be for the same reasons as GT is going down the zoomer.

If this series is a success it'll be for one reason only. The guys who race want to be there.

Lets find out shall we?

ff s conscience · 6 Apr 2008, 12:33 (Ref:2171146)

If sven were to make the series a Porsche v Ferrari series...

.... and aim to get good venues and TV...

the opportunites would be endless...

GT racing SHOULD be here I feel... but it has to be a world wide representation of GT3 (speed/type) cars...

What "I" want , is to have cars racing at premiere meetings with a marketable exposure package.

Now, if GT face plant themselves, I still know of around 5-8 Ferraris on this soil that would be keen to race...

why not open it up to Ferrari?

Bee Jay · 6 Apr 2008, 13:00 (Ref:2171184)

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Originally Posted by D.R.T.

Fine thats great.

My point is not specifically you, but Porker and others who have said

to be now so emphatically backing a series that is so narrow in its regs that it in fact pushing people away or telling them to sell and buy new cars to join the series.

It seems highly hypocritical and pushing ones own agenda which has been criticism of other GT/Sportcar championships in Australia.

You are absolutely correct D.R.T., they are pushing competitors away.There have been statements made about getting this Series back to the way the original Porsche Cup was. But the current direction is far from that.
A lot is being made about pre 996 NA cars being eligible; well they might be, but how many are there, that will actually compete at this level?
Look at Porsche Cup/ Porsche Drivers Challenge '02- '04, how many NA cars were there then? Just a handfull and that was 4-6 years ago.
The persons controlling this Series have to put their own agendas to one side and make this a Porsche race series open to all porsche race cars.

Sheep Stations · 7 Apr 2008, 22:02 (Ref:2172739)

MNews today...GT3CC going it alone, starting at Mallala in May. Couldn't work a track share arrangement with GT.

Great track for beginners like me, lots of run-offs!

Sheep Stations · 7 Apr 2008, 22:27 (Ref:2172759)

to be now so emphatically backing a series that is so narrow in its regs that it in fact pushing people away or telling them to sell and buy new cars to join the series.

Generous use of semantics DRT. The GT3CC organisers didn't make the blunt statement, I did...because it is stating the bleeding obvious from my perspective as a competitor.

No-one is pushing anyone away, if a racecar falls within the regs, they're welcome. How simple could it be?

Narrow in its regs?...N/A covers about 95% of all Porsches built.

inpitlane · 8 Apr 2008, 06:15 (Ref:2172877)

I'm assured that Sven Burchartz from the GT3 Cup Challenge will be on tonight's In Pit Lane.
Also one of the best excuses ever for a driver stuffing up and all the ALMS and LMES results (with some pretty pictures!)
And our new Ebay sponsorship ploy for our final 4 shows.

Sheep Stations · 8 Apr 2008, 06:34 (Ref:2172882)

He's a sizable unit...hope your interview couch is big enough.

911Porker · 8 Apr 2008, 08:32 (Ref:2172950)

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Originally Posted by Sheep Stations

He's a sizable unit...hope your interview couch is big enough.

Makes patching his rig a nightmare for the boys at Sonic. Good on anti clockwise circuits though ...

Sheep Stations · 8 Apr 2008, 23:06 (Ref:2173508)

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Originally Posted by 911Porker

Makes patching his rig a nightmare for the boys at Sonic. Good on anti clockwise circuits though ...

It would be like a rock in a sock going the other way.

PVDA · 9 Apr 2008, 02:13 (Ref:2173564)

Interesting interview last night.

davelise · 9 Apr 2008, 21:44 (Ref:2174163)

Is there any way the interview can be posted on the net for those of us lucky enough to live outside Melbourne?

inpitlane · 10 Apr 2008, 00:39 (Ref:2174216)

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Originally Posted by davelise

Is there any way the interview can be posted on the net for those of us lucky enough to live outside Melbourne?

Unfortunately there are rights restrictions that prevent us from putting anything up direct from the show on the podcast for at least three weeks.
Once that's passed we could put it up then. Of course if someone else taped it and let's say put it on you tube, well that would be wrong but, hey what can ya do?

Sheep Stations · 10 Apr 2008, 02:14 (Ref:2174228)

Did he scrub up all right and get the message across well for his TV debut?

...or did he do a Fonzie and 'jump the shark'?

911Porker · 10 Apr 2008, 11:02 (Ref:2174428)

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Originally Posted by Sheep Stations

Did he scrub up all right and get the message across well for his TV debut?

...or did he do a Fonzie and 'jump the shark'?

Shagger, not sure what to make of that last line but I think too much time in the dip tank ...

911Porker · 10 Apr 2008, 11:04 (Ref:2174432)

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Originally Posted by davelise

Is there any way the interview can be posted on the net for those of us lucky enough to live outside Melbourne?

From where I sat it was a self serving diatribe. Too much Cocho, not enough Mosley ...

EfiOz · 10 Apr 2008, 23:42 (Ref:2174919)

What? No hookers?

Somebody had to say it.

davelise · 11 Apr 2008, 07:50 (Ref:2175035)

Saw Paul Bolinowsky's new 911Cup today at Wakefield. Nice. Very orange. Good luck to all running in ProdSports, especially that blue/red Lotus.

Bullett · 12 Apr 2008, 10:40 (Ref:2175771)

http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/re...4/2008.WAKE.R1

And the lap record is broken, congradulations to Tim Mackie. What happened to Pearson?

davelise · 12 Apr 2008, 19:46 (Ref:2176023)

I will take this over to the sportscar thread since we are no longer talking about porkers, unless you count beating them

Sheep Stations · 12 Apr 2008, 20:56 (Ref:2176068)

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Originally Posted by davelise

I will take this over to the sportscar thread since we are no longer talking about porkers, unless you count beating them

Beating a 1st time rookie in a Cup Car by 3/1000ths into 2nd place is hardly worthy of a massive gloat, that was Skinners Cup Car ahead of you...but well done!

We'll be having a chat with John Wakefield about restoring order on Sunday.

davelise · 13 Apr 2008, 07:13 (Ref:2176227)

Nah, you're right sheep, I should have waited a day until Tim beat Skinner. Great racing today.

Sheep Stations · 13 Apr 2008, 22:31 (Ref:2176726)

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Originally Posted by davelise

Nah, you're right sheep, I should have waited a day until Tim beat Skinner. Great racing today.

Yep...well done.

Sheep Stations · 16 Apr 2008, 07:10 (Ref:2178568)

Just got a GT3 Cup Challenge press release announcing TV package for the 4 rounds on SBS and Foxtel Speedweek and Inside Speed, starting at Mallala in May.

So far so good, lots of communication, plenty of competitor interest, relatively cheap entry fees and something for those lucky guys with sponsors. Counting the sleeps...

bestfit · 18 Apr 2008, 03:48 (Ref:2180333)

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