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Old 22 Mar 2017, 06:24 (Ref:3720561)   #256
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Thought I'd post my thanks to Louis and his team, ably assisted by Simon Hadfield for finally getting my Rover HTP. As said above you have to go a bit further to prove what was used in period for the Group 1+ era.

Next year anyone invited to the 76mm will need papers.

Yours sincerely, a very happy bunny. 😁
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Old 22 Mar 2017, 09:16 (Ref:3720606)   #257
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Very pleased for you Peter! Will you be sleeping with them under the pillow?

We also had good news this week that the red Mog has been granted papers. Nice to be able to thrust them in front of scrutineers- whether they ask for them or not...

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Old 22 Mar 2017, 16:25 (Ref:3720698)   #258
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We also had good news this week that the red Mog has been granted papers. Nice to be able to thrust them in front of scrutineers- whether they ask for them or not...
At last!!

I am hearing rumours that there is going to be a clamp down on holes cut in screens, windows, rear screens etc if it cannot demonstrated to be done in period. If this is true, I can understand the intent, but is this going to clobber those cars where holes have been cut to aid in driver ventilation as well?

Has anyone else got wind of this (forgive the pun!!)?
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Old 22 Mar 2017, 16:33 (Ref:3720701)   #259
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Isnt it the kind of detail clearly listed in appendix K? If yes, that's not a rumor but a confirmation. Down here we are not allowed to drive with the driver/passenger window down since the eighties. Exception is made if you use a Nascar type net.
I think they are targeting the cars with Naca ducts in the Perspex windows…
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I am hearing rumours that there is going to be a clamp down on holes cut in screens, windows, rear screens etc if it cannot demonstrated to be done in period. If this is true, I can understand the intent, but is this going to clobber those cars where holes have been cut to aid in driver ventilation as well?

Has anyone else got wind of this (forgive the pun!!)?
When I renewed the papers on my +4 recently I was told that it couldn't be presented for inspection with vent holes in the rear screen. These were on the photo in previous papers, but as that screen was replaced years ago by one without any holes, it was a non-issue! The side screens have 'helicopter' vents, but these weren't commented on..... My take is that it is mainly rear screen vents that are under scrutiny, but who knows- could be wrong!
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Old 22 Mar 2017, 20:47 (Ref:3720769)   #261
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When I renewed the papers on my +4 recently I was told that it couldn't be presented for inspection with vent holes in the rear screen. These were on the photo in previous papers, but as that screen was replaced years ago by one without any holes, it was a non-issue! The side screens have 'helicopter' vents, but these weren't commented on..... My take is that it is mainly rear screen vents that are under scrutiny, but who knows- could be wrong!
My E-type application was chucked back for holes in the rear window, (amongst other minor stuff) 2 years ago so nothing new. They were there to help through-ventilation in the car but previous to this scrutineers at Spa weren't happy that the holes were close to the fuel filler, concerned that vapour could find it's way inside. I explained that the holes were there to let the vapour out!
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Old 23 Mar 2017, 08:54 (Ref:3720855)   #262
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If you retain your window mechanisms, as you should, you have the option to open, or close the windows, weather dependant.

nothing beats an opening quarter light and flip out rear side windows
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Old 23 Mar 2017, 09:32 (Ref:3720867)   #263
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We have both opening windows quarter lights and rear windows on the 356, but found the flow of air onto the driver was minimal. We had therefore resorted to a 3" hole in the Perspex with a bit of "donkey dick" running through it pointed at the driver.We found this to be much better at diverting a stream of air onto the driver!

Although we have been running this for a few years now, my concern is that we will be asked to blank the hole, as not a period modification!

You can see it in this photo....

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Although we have been running this for a few years now, my concern is that we will be asked to blank the hole, as not a period modification!

I would think not- but am not an MSA Inspector!
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We had the same thing on our CER Corvette C2 (around 70° C inside!). Mostly depends on the scrutineer team. But from the appendix clearly not allowed. In France you will be asked to wind up your window on the pit lane. This comes from crashes where the driver's arm could go outside when the car was accidentally rolled (Christian Maquiné- Commodore Croix en Ternois or Claude Ballot Lena-Alfetta Spa- for instance). But OK bringing fresh air is also a matter of security and comfort as well. To be negotiated!
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I didn't get hot in Johns 356, all the heats behind you.

Although I did break into a sweat every time I needed to slow down!!!
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Although I did break into a sweat every time I needed to slow down!!!
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