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If CB are happy for teams to use it as a test for the 12hr then whats it to you? Especially when they're a minority in the number of entries for the event. |
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4 Jul 2017, 03:02 (Ref:3748750) | #452 | |
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how come Peckstar is allowed personal attacks but no one else is?
I copped a 1 week ban recently but Peckstar is allowed to do much worse? |
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Somebody asked if the McLaren F1 was going to be like the Ferrari F40, Gordon Murray replied, "I don't think so, there's no one at McLaren who can weld that badly." |
4 Jul 2017, 03:14 (Ref:3748754) | #454 | |
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Must be.
I don't know who Brad is but I like the idea of being a Minion. They seem to have fun in those movies. |
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4 Jul 2017, 03:15 (Ref:3748755) | #455 | ||
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however drivers can still run the track , just not in a GT3, which as you said, carries many benefits |
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A negative is that if you are learning then driving your half million difficult to repair car at bathurst is a lot more risky than most permanent tracks Drivers are able to test at most permanent tracks whenever they want. But CB is not a test day, nor is it an unofficial test day (wishful thinking by the promoter) |
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4 Jul 2017, 03:27 (Ref:3748761) | #459 | ||
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Regardless of its perceived status as test or proxy test day - the move to ban GT3 and GT4 cars doesn't add up.
The reference of yours Peckstar to the old and new promoter doesn't hold much validity because neither can claim exclusive use of GT3 cars and nor should they. |
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Upon entry into the Bathurst 1000, it should be mandatory to view the compelling "Moffat - Man and the Mountain" film |
4 Jul 2017, 03:28 (Ref:3748762) | #460 | |||
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That's where you're wrong. Some B12 teams do use it as an unofficial test day or to shakedown a new car. Not all the teams have a manufacturer behind them that can book out the whole track, like Audi is planning to do. |
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No, it's a race meeting and running at a race meeting with other cars on track is easily the best way to test for a later race meeting at the same track. |
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4 Jul 2017, 03:36 (Ref:3748765) | #462 | |
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expensive exercise to drive/fly to bathurst for 2 to 3 days, pay the $4000 entry fee, just to shake down a car when you could do it a few hours from home in a safer and cheaper environment
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Obviously Peckstar, you're keen for a spend/salary cap for each team in Supercars, you know, to keep it even?
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4 Jul 2017, 03:44 (Ref:3748767) | #464 | |
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maybe the 12 hour needs to become a 4 day weekend
and then all the issues are fixed and at a much more cost effective price |
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4 Jul 2017, 03:47 (Ref:3748769) | #466 | |
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anyway, finding it interesting why only CB is being discussed
back to one of my original points on why the change is happening. Protecting the product from the predator |
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4 Jul 2017, 03:48 (Ref:3748770) | #467 | |
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Pecky your argument has more holes than a spaghetti strainer.
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I see no issue with Challenge Bathurst running GT3 cars.
Any support of the blanket ban is ill-advised because there is no obvious substance to it other than to enforce the commercial interests of CAMS. It's not for safety reasons - any given number of expired homologation GT3 cars from the Mosler etc can attend CB - and they can also be modified for more speed. CB is also open to cars that are faster then GT3, such as older GT1 or the Ferrari 599XX that Maranello was slated to bring last year. Tony Quinn could run his Vulcan if he pleased - its faster than GT3 - more power more aero. Obviously, a manufacturer can hire the mountain for a significant fee and Bathurst Council will happily take it - so only a handful of backed teams can benefit from such a move. CB allows for some of the smaller privateer teams to at least get some running - although the format isn't exactly conducive to optimised runs and the gains would be minimal. Combine this with risk of bending a machine - and a potential re-shell - and you end up with a number of teams on the fence about going at all as we saw last year. You may get more value testing elsewhere - but at least leave it open for the teams to make the call on if they attend CB or not. |
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4 Jul 2017, 04:11 (Ref:3748776) | #470 | |
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Actually my key argument is true, and no one even wants to discuss it
But im picking apart everyones argument just as easily, so theirs have just as many holes the CB test issue is a just a distraction, as hardly anyone tested last yer anyway |
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4 Jul 2017, 04:15 (Ref:3748779) | #473 | |
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B12hr promoter John Casey has been quoted saying that, if anything, Competitors believe the current event has too many practice sessions (incurring too much risk of bending the car and eliminating them from the weekend before the race)
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guess that would mean they are not going to go to a "unofficial test session" then either better to do your set up and shakedowns and driver familiarization at safer tracks. sounds familiar |
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didnt call you a minion, why do you think you are? |
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