Championship Points System

[one five five]

the best championship points system is the simplest, 1 point for first, nothing for the rest!

Would Lowndes have had more of a go on the last lap of Bathurst had this been the case?

[DX20VT]

Originally Posted by one five five

Would Lowndes have had more of a go on the last lap of Bathurst had this been the case?

Possibly, but would the rest of the field even bothered racing or trying a move when you get the same result for 10th or 20th?

If you dont give points to low enough positions, if a driver had a bad first part of the race you may as well pull in and start to get ready for the next race, or start packing up to leave.

[one five five]

Originally Posted by DX20VT

Possibly, but would the rest of the field even bothered racing or trying a move when you get the same result for 10th or 20th?

If you dont give points to low enough positions, if a driver had a bad first part of the race you may as well pull in and start to get ready for the next race, or start packing up to leave.

Are you saying that in all the years Bathurst (and Sandown, and others) wern't a part of the championship, that they didn't try??? Rubbish

They are all racing drivers, when the green flag drops, they can't help themselves!

[Micklegend]

formerf1champ...some good points, thats all im looking for here...what people think. I couldnt agree more about Ingalls and Ricks wins too. maybe ive been watching with interest the nascar scenario and seeing how close it is, no standout winner yet, but a case where all races matter, no matter how late in the season it may be.

[one five five]

Originally Posted by Micklegend

maybe ive been watching with interest the nascar scenario and seeing how close it is, no standout winner yet, but a case where all races matter, no matter how late in the season it may be.

Isn't the current NASCAR Chase this year proving what a farce it is?

Tony Stewart has won 4 of the Chase races, and is BEHIND a driver who hasn't won any Chase races....

[peckstar]

not sure how it proves it was a farce,

its just proves that tony is inconsistant

[Micklegend]

Tony qualified for the chance to win the championship, then has done a better job than others in the late stages. Some could say that 888 have done a better job than all others all year, but where is the chance if others hit their stride later in the year, yet have bugger all chance of getting within a country mile of winning? Nascar system gives those guys a shot. if the leaders still do a good job, then rightfully they will win, if they drop the ball in the late stages of the championship then they risk losing it. Is this where we see the leaders playing the accumulation game, potentially seeing them coast to a win, rather than still having to fight for every point?

The current V8 point system would give early leaders to big a buffer in my opinion.

[one five five]

Originally Posted by Micklegend

Tony qualified for the chance to win the championship, then has done a better job than others in the late stages. Some could say that 888 have done a better job than all others all year, but where is the chance if others hit their stride later in the year, yet have bugger all chance of getting within a country mile of winning? Nascar system gives those guys a shot. if the leaders still do a good job, then rightfully they will win, if they drop the ball in the late stages of the championship then they risk losing it. Is this where we see the leaders playing the accumulation game, potentially seeing them coast to a win, rather than still having to fight for every point?

If you don't perform for the first three quarters of the year, how do you deserve a chance to win a title?

Championship victories are supposed to represent a years hard work, not a couple of races at the end of it.

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by one five five

If you don't perform for the first three quarters of the year, how do you deserve a chance to win a title?

Championship victories are supposed to represent a years hard work, not a couple of races at the end of it.

make up your mind 155, your last two posts in this thread have just contradicted each other

[formerf1champ]

Reading the thread since my last post, do you want a change in points allocation, or a series where every race counts? (even to some degree) If it's the latter then, would a smaller series be satisfactory? In effect, that's what The Chase does in Nascar, creates a 10 race series. In principle, I don't like The Chase formula, but I would've taken it more seriously if it were a real "finals" series, where the competitors who make the finals only get to compete in it, and those that don't aren't allowed to have an effect.

Is a 28 race series, over 14 weekends a bit too much? MotoGP had 18 races this year. If you go back to the early, mid '90s, if you mix'n'matched the calendar in those years, you'd have the triple challenge, (my preference) a 10 2-heat ATCC, Sandown, Bathurst, AGP support, if you want a EC 500 and Brock tribute classic, there's two more. You get a more compact, but still significant, ATCC, and 16 racing weekends per year...to please "the fans". On top of that, 3 Amscar rounds, or a variation of, (every round counted there!) and that's 19 race weekends!...that's not bad I reckon. It's kind of funny, in '93 it you include Amscar, Touring cars had 16 race weekends and 34 races! And there's only 15/31 all up now, there was 15/29 in '94 without it as well...hmm.

[NaBUru38]

Changing the points system will change how drivers fight for each position on track. But it won't change team dominance.

I can't believe that some of you want an even flatter points scale in V8 Supercars. The current system is 100-92-86-80-74 (or multiples). That's horrible! It should be 100-70-55, more or less like in F1.

I don't know how yo interpret endurance races. But Bathurst gives 300 points to the winner, just like what a perfect driver get at every other weekend. I thing that endurance races should give double points, like the World Endurance Championship does with the 24 Hours.

[fomoco]

In regards to the points system, this comes up every year:

THere have been valid comments on the points and some a bit out of touch with monderned racing.

But , some where very valid:

A Normal round: 1st 10 2Nd 8 3rd 6 4th 4 5th 3 6th 2 7th 1 every one else a point.

laps lead during race from lap two to second last lap a point

Sprint round: points for pole, points laps, points for improving position, this is perculiarto some tracks, Symmons Plans, start 20 finish top ten , get extra points.

Reward points for when a driver does something extra, other wise , this series will always end up, they who have the most mpney to spend on development will win.


just a thought

[NaBUru38]

I disagree with points for the fastest lap. That encourages dirvers to leave a gap to the driver in front, then try a flying lap. That prevents close fights. To award fast laps, there's qualifying.

[Falcadore]

Originally Posted by fomoco

In regards to the points system, this comes up every year:

THere have been valid comments on the points and some a bit out of touch with monderned racing.

But , some where very valid:

A Normal round: 1st 10 2Nd 8 3rd 6 4th 4 5th 3 6th 2 7th 1 every one else a point.

laps lead during race from lap two to second last lap a point

Sprint round: points for pole, points laps, points for improving position, this is perculiarto some tracks, Symmons Plans, start 20 finish top ten , get extra points.

Reward points for when a driver does something extra, other wise , this series will always end up, they who have the most mpney to spend on development will win.


just a thought

We've seen in the past that the V8 teams will campaign against any system that does not reward every car finishing races, and VESA wants a points system that can still engineering a final round showdown despite a dominant driver, it is a pointless thought.

If you will pardon the pun.