So who had the better year ?

Reload · 7 Dec 2015, 01:06 (Ref:3596002)

So the year is done and dusted and Red Bull and PRA have dominated, but who had the better year as PRA produced the Championship winner, whilst Red Bull won Bathurst and the team Championship.
For me honours were shared, but your thoughts ?

peckstar · 7 Dec 2015, 01:09 (Ref:3596003)

Just trying to find footage of T8 celebrating yesterday, Cant seem to find any really.

Question answered

Also PRA won dunlop series

**GTRMagic** · 7 Dec 2015, 01:18 (Ref:3596004)

PRA made the wrong call on replacement pilots for #6 after Mr Mostert's Bathurst crash

Moving Mr Reynolds to that car would likely have secured PRA the Teams Championship as well.

Umai Naa · 7 Dec 2015, 01:19 (Ref:3596005)

PRA had the better year, I would think.

To have 3, sometimes 4 of their cars up the pointy end for the most part of the season, takes a fair amount of effort. If Chaz hadn't binned it, they'd have properly dominated and won the Teams championship too.

Reload · 7 Dec 2015, 01:19 (Ref:3596006)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

Just trying to find footage of T8 celebrating yesterday, Cant seem to find any really.

Question answered

Also PRA won dunlop series

Just trying to find footage of PRA celebrating at Bathurst, but can't seem to find any really.

Reload · 7 Dec 2015, 01:21 (Ref:3596007)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Umai Naa

PRA had the better year, I would think.

To have 3, sometimes 4 of their cars up the pointy end for the most part of the season, takes a fair amount of effort. If Chaz hadn't binned it, they'd have properly dominated and won the Teams championship too.

Let's go on results and not "woulda, coulda".

peckstar · 7 Dec 2015, 01:23 (Ref:3596008)

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Originally Posted by Reload

Just trying to find footage of PRA celebrating at Bathurst, but can't seem to find any really.

Sure you could, they finished 2nd on the podium

But thats one day, you said year. Saw PRA celebrating at Sandown also, couldnt see Triple 8 anywhere. Thats another day

PRA also picked up the pole position award

Umai Naa · 7 Dec 2015, 01:26 (Ref:3596009)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

PRA made the wrong call on replacement pilots for #6 after Mr Mostert's Bathurst crash

Moving Mr Reynolds to that car would likely have secured PRA the Teams Championship as well.

Agreed. Pit allocation for #55/#111 wouldn't matter too much.

Perhaps even rushed through another chassis to avoid using the dog of a thing that the ladies tried to tame at Bathurst.

Umai Naa · 7 Dec 2015, 01:28 (Ref:3596010)

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Originally Posted by Reload

Let's go on results and not "woulda, coulda".

Fair call, but you can't really ignore their form up til that point.

Reload · 7 Dec 2015, 01:34 (Ref:3596012)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

Sure you could, they finished 2nd on the podium

But thats one day, you said year. Saw PRA celebrating at Sandown also, couldnt see Triple 8 anywhere. Thats another day

PRA also picked up the pole position award

2nd ?

Reload · 7 Dec 2015, 01:35 (Ref:3596013)

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Originally Posted by Umai Naa

Fair call, but you can't really ignore their form up til that point.

Definitely.

Sandgroper · 7 Dec 2015, 01:39 (Ref:3596014)

PRA Hands Down in my opinion.

No 1 in both divisions beats a Teams Championship surely

Axeman444 · 7 Dec 2015, 01:39 (Ref:3596015)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Umai Naa

PRA had the better year, I would think.

To have 3, sometimes 4 of their cars up the pointy end for the most part of the season, takes a fair amount of effort. If Chaz hadn't binned it, they'd have properly dominated and won the Teams championship too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reload

Let's go on results and not "woulda, coulda".

Based on the results of when Chaz was driving, PRA would likely have a Championship 1-2, Teams Championship and Dev series wrapped up

Reload · 7 Dec 2015, 01:42 (Ref:3596018)

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Originally Posted by Axeman444

Based on the results of when Chaz was driving, PRA would likely have a Championship 1-2, Teams Championship and Dev series wrapped up

Wouldn't rule out Bathurst either.

mayhem · 7 Dec 2015, 02:59 (Ref:3596027)

I reckon Triple 8 will be satisfied with a decent year, but I think the winner on points decision in Prodrive. To finally get the monkey off their back and collect that number 1 will have them on cloud nine for a while.

The disappointments for the year for me is more interesting: HRT (snatching losses from the jaws of victory many times), Volvo (so many reliability issues in their second year after a stellar first year) and the Kellys (just don't seem to be progressing, certainly not at the rate Nissan would hope for...)

anthony81901 · 7 Dec 2015, 06:00 (Ref:3596054)

The driver's championship and Bathurst are the only ones that matter. Yes the team's championship does dictate the next year's pitlane order, and there is some kudos in the endurance cup and most pole positions, but no one is going to remember them.

johnh875 · 7 Dec 2015, 06:05 (Ref:3596056)

I'd say PRA, although only just on the basis they didn't recover from Chaz's crash too well with the outdated car being used for the rest of the year. I wonder how far off a new car was/is? Perhaps they had no plans for one given next season is the last for the current model?

Driver TBA · 7 Dec 2015, 06:31 (Ref:3596061)

PRA for sure. Most wins and poles, although a bit skewed V's 888 thanks to 3 drivers. Sandown 500, plus development and main game championships.

888's teams title was aided allot to Chaz missing, but Bathurst was won on clear pace. Even if Chaz didn't wall it, I don't think his car or Waters would have had the pace of the 2 888 cars.

Both teams walk away with big smiles after sharing the big prizes.

Umai Naa · 7 Dec 2015, 08:49 (Ref:3596081)

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Originally Posted by johnh875

I'd say PRA, although only just on the basis they didn't recover from Chaz's crash too well with the outdated car being used for the rest of the year. I wonder how far off a new car was/is? Perhaps they had no plans for one given next season is the last for the current model?

The chassis will carry over into the new regs. The only difference at this stage is the choice of engines and body panels.

Gaz170 · 7 Dec 2015, 09:08 (Ref:3596085)

Seems honours probably shared equally between PRA & 888, with everyone else nowhere.

Probably would have been different if Chaz hadn't had his Bathurst accident.

fomoco · 7 Dec 2015, 10:10 (Ref:3596100)

PRA as a team, there was also a few individual efforts , by some drivers, Dave R, 3rd in Cship (yes a PRA car but RUSTY French entry) , Scot Pye , showing he is getting grips with it, remember JW was dropped before he made of with those Championships ,

Should we add in ,
The Good
The Bad, and
The Ugly

bluesport · 7 Dec 2015, 10:19 (Ref:3596105)

PRA tops for me, although Chaz binned it at Bathurst, to then have him out for the remainder was a double blow and it was a great team effort for Frosty to ultimately prevail.

ford71 · 7 Dec 2015, 23:22 (Ref:3596251)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

PRA made the wrong call on replacement pilots for #6 after Mr Mostert's Bathurst crash

Moving Mr Reynolds to that car would likely have secured PRA the Teams Championship as well.

I would have been against that.
Would love to have seen PRA take the team C'ship, but not like that.
Reynolds was still fighting for the title for himself, his team and his sponsors at that point, so to have him poached like that would have not been a good look.

Cam Waters seemed like an obvious choice but all it showed me was Reynolds is the guy that should be in the third PRA car.
Steve Owen did himself no favours at Sydney. He needed to put that car up higher in all the races but maybe thats partly the car rather than his abilities.

Umai Naa · 8 Dec 2015, 00:59 (Ref:3596274)

Not sure how I feel about Mr Owen's performance.

Mr Waters managed to get it circulating reasonably well, inside the top half of the field for the most part. Mr Ingall was also quick to point out the car's particular nuances very early on in the weekend at the Gold Coast, strongly recommending a change in direction with regards to driving style and chassis setup to make the thing work. The base setup applied to #5 simply would not translate into any sort of remarkable lap time for #6 (nee #200).

Whether Mr Owen had the same desire or permission, to deviate from the setup window remains to be seen.

**GTRMagic** · 8 Dec 2015, 01:26 (Ref:3596283)

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Originally Posted by ford71

I would have been against that.
Would love to have seen PRA take the team C'ship, but not like that.
Reynolds was still fighting for the title for himself, his team and his sponsors at that point, so to have him poached like that would have not been a good look.

Cam Waters seemed like an obvious choice but all it showed me was Reynolds is the guy that should be in the third PRA car.
Steve Owen did himself no favours at Sydney. He needed to put that car up higher in all the races but maybe thats partly the car rather than his abilities.

The drivers championship was done for Mr Reynolds after the pervious round. Could easily have played car/crew swapsies for Homebush...

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