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Old 31 Dec 2013, 04:02 (Ref:3349079)   #61
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More bankruptcies ahead?

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Old 31 Dec 2013, 11:59 (Ref:3349160)   #62
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An interesting article. I wonder who the three "shady would be investors" are in the photo? I doubt if they would be happy to described thus!
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An interesting article. I wonder who the three "shady would be investors" are in the photo? I doubt if they would be happy to described thus!
The one on the left is Mansoor Ijaz, of the Quantum consortium that Lotus were at one point expecting funding from.
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Old 6 Jan 2014, 14:36 (Ref:3350901)   #64
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The one on the left is Mansoor Ijaz, of the Quantum consortium that Lotus were at one point expecting funding from.

The one in the middle is Suhail Al Dhaheri, the boss of the Al Manhal "empire", which is run from a pizza parlour in Utah.
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Old 7 Jan 2014, 17:20 (Ref:3351291)   #65
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I see where Toto Wolff believes that spending by F1's big teams is unsustainable and should be contolled.

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All the right noises are being made, by all the right people. I just pray that this comes to something where the sport is in a much more stable place. Even with so much money being pumped out by CVC, at least the teams will be able to survive. We will still argue what happens is unjust but at least the issue this unjust causes may be partly resolved.
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Old 7 Jan 2014, 20:16 (Ref:3351354)   #67
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The other part of the problem is the amount of money the midfield teams get from Bernie. The new agreements mean the smaller teams get proportionally a lot less and this will not really hit until the 2014 season.
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Lotus are skipping the first test.

That makes no sense, I think that's a worrying sign. Testing is expensive but in the case of a season like the one ahead, absolutely necessary.
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I wouldn't worry about that yet. Building a new car is not easy. Many teams will have nothing to test. At least in the previous seasons they could have done tests with an old chassis, which is pointless now.
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"Some of these people are earning millions of dollars a year and they are not prepared to pay for .... With some of them, it's all take and no give. They wouldn't even buy you a cup of coffee" said Bernard C. Eccelstone* at the Brazilian GP 1987.

On that occasion he was talking about the drivers now it could be.... well you know.

*Ref The Turbo Years by Alan Henry page 241
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There is possibly a new investor looking at buying out CVC to gain control of F1. It is suspected US media billionaire John Malone is interested in buying CVC's shareholding. In Europe he owns 51% of Eurosport, but also owns Virgin Media (UK), Unitymedia (GER), Ziggo (NL) and Telenet (BEL).

If he were to gain control of F1 it could have significant ramifications to how we see it in the media. CVC has been trying to offload its shareholding for some time with the failed float etc. So it would be folly to discount such a move.

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There is possibly a new investor looking at buying out CVC to gain control of F1. It is suspected US media billionaire John Malone is interested in buying CVC's shareholding. In Europe he owns 51% of Eurosport, but also owns Virgin Media (UK), Unitymedia (GER), Ziggo (NL) and Telenet (BEL).

If he were to gain control of F1 it could have significant ramifications to how we see it in the media. CVC has been trying to offload its shareholding for some time with the failed float etc. So it would be folly to discount such a move.

http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2014/...ula-one-group/

Now Bernie is denying it.

http://www.pitpass.com/50872/Ecclest...ed-F1-takeover
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Even though I am not a fan of Pitpass I like this article by Mike Lawrence. Its where he compares F1 teams to football teams and how soccer players are paid compared to F1 drivers.

http://www.pitpass.com/50876/The-Elastoplast-Technique
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Even though I am not a fan of Pitpass I like this article by Mike Lawrence. Its where he compares F1 teams to football teams and how soccer players are paid compared to F1 drivers.

http://www.pitpass.com/50876/The-Elastoplast-Technique
Ah Yes. Mike has a sharp tongue and an incisive pen.
Good article, and by that I simply mean I agree with his comments.
He's right.
There is something seriously wrong with F1.
The fact that the 100 year rights were sold by the FIA (the sport does not belong to the FIA executive, it belongs to followers, the fans) is a major piece of irresponsible management, and at the very least, incredibly short sighted.

In any professional international sport the governing body are the simply the managers for the public interest. they do it well, and succeed, or they do it badly and fail miserably.
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