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Old 3 Jan 2017, 16:14 (Ref:3699942)   #166
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Why hasn't RCE taken off? Given Pat's comments about WRX perhaps coming back to Lydden one day I doubt he would want to sour the relationship with IMG and any European series needs to be at Lydden to attract the entries given the changes to ferries in the north sea.
Just came here to post that! For anyone who hasn't seen it, an interview with Pat concerning the future of the circuit can be seen here:

http://www.kentonline.co.uk/canterbu...-close-118267/
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Old 3 Jan 2017, 18:24 (Ref:3699963)   #167
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You do not have to have it as an FIA championship really. But I would imagine IMG have tied up a deal preventing anyone else doing such. They would do something like that.

There is I believe a case to answer for a championship that is a poor relation and only covers 5 rounds, is that even something considered a championship, more of a run off or a short series.

It is nothing but a farce designed to make private drivers bolster WRX big meeting entries and pay IMG more for being there, when they get none of the benefits.

They can then sell 60, 50 supercars!!, when they aren't even allowed to bloody race together, it's so ridiculous it beggars belief!

Tell me one benefit for Scott, Larsson, Eklund being a support race for WRX? Other than lower budget for less rounds. Do they really want that? For a tin pot trophy that guarantees the winner nothing whatsoever?

RCE has not taken off because it was too soon, the teams were still hoping they might be able to compete in WRX, but that ship has sailed. If someone with clout took it on it could work. If WRX don't stamp it out to protect their precious world, no doubt the same reason WRX doesn't go to the US because of GRC.
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Old 3 Jan 2017, 18:43 (Ref:3699967)   #168
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Not surprised by this move from IMG but still it's sad.
Who's next? Estering?
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Old 3 Jan 2017, 19:47 (Ref:3699979)   #169
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Official confirmation of the new cars acquired by DA Racing:

http://www.fiaworldrallycross.com/ar...epare-for-2017

The closing lines of the article imply "World Championship" participation: possibility of them running the full Championship?

Albatec Racing - Peugeot 208 - Jere Kalliokoski (Euro RX)
Marklund Motorsport - Volkswagen Polo - Magda Andersson (Euro RX)
Marklund Motorsport - Volkswagen Polo - Anton Marklund (Euro RX)

DA Racing - Peugeot 208 - ? (World RX?)
DA Racing - Peugeot 208 - ? (World RX?)
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Old 4 Jan 2017, 07:43 (Ref:3700062)   #170
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Well Doran's pockets must be very deep indeed because of all the events mentioned in that interview I doubt many would even break even.
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Old 4 Jan 2017, 08:08 (Ref:3700068)   #171
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I would think the hosting rights were pretty expensive so that would eat into the profits he would have made from WRX.

So, running more national events would at least be cheaper on hosting fees.

I gather they made a bunch of cash I the pat from the tuning show they had there.
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@tbtstt, maybe you were ok with the balance so far is because the UK was not affected like in some areas in Europe. I live in Holland and we already lost Valkenswaard, which I can understand of the inboard paddock, but we also have the dreadful Mettet circuit
Not having IMG running the NRV (the dutch club that organizes the RX) into a total financial dead trap was the clubs own decision, not IMG's. Back then the fee they asked was just criminal and the contract period far to long, with just a piece of paper with just legal mumbo jumbo and loads of demands to show and some very far fetched dream visions as hollow promises. They were dangling the bait of millions of tv-viewers without being able to name a Dutch (or any other) broadcaster they had a contract with (there wasn't any) The just 16 car race format they proposed was sh*te (and since dropped, remember) etc etc.
Of course that was much to do with being 1 of the first to have been asked to sign.

RCE didn't take of because of 1. money 2. willingness to work together between the european clubs/circuits 3. lack of vision and willingness to invest in a future by drivers. 4. lack of a powerful enough promoter.
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Old 4 Jan 2017, 14:41 (Ref:3700136)   #173
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I think the issue was the same at the established venues sush as Poland, Hungary, Czecho and others. I am also sure most of those had plenty of reasons why they are certainly not suitable now, but mght have been then.

AS I said at the time, IMG were trying to run before they could walk. ALl they really have if you look at it, is a small group of largely Swedish importer run teams and a couple of very wealthy professional drivers. Yet they are selling it as a fully professional works team motorsport. THe works team bit is only true of Ford and Hansen Peugeot. Even Hansen's team is only factory by name, they don't use full Peugeot WRC mechanics, engines and the like as a WRC team would. Only Ford is true factory.

It does seem to be working at the moment. But if you look at the bare bones there really is not much to it.

it is not a proper world championship, as it is based largely in Europe. All the drivers are from there aswell. so all you are being sold is a posh largely semi pro European rallycross championship. Someone somewhere managed to convince the FIA to call it a world championship as it had a round in Turkey and two in the Americas, and that's it.

RCE was too quick to appear. It needs a clear target. At the moment it is what the old Zone series was, ie Austro Hungary really. WIth a few interlopers.

You could easily run events in Czech, Sweden, Norway, Poland, Germany, Belgium, Holland, probably France Ireland and Italy too.

It just needs a focal leader to polarize the drivers and teams, an aggressive recruitment program to convince the drivers running as second rate support classes in ERX that this is better. A decent travel and prize fund, tv coverage and all the classes catered for.
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Old 4 Jan 2017, 16:18 (Ref:3700147)   #174
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Not World Championship news, but I note that Subaru USA have announced their GRC drivers for 2017 as Patrik Sandell and Chris Atkinson. No mention of Sverre Isachsen (or Bucky Lasek) yet, could Isachsen make an appearance in Europe again?
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Sverre is old school entrepreneur type, heavily involved with one of the guys racing Lites, so probably likely to do ERX
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IMG plastering Loeb in the Dakar over the #WorldRX website today. Assume he's got a multi year deal with Peugeot-Hansen otherwise can't see why they'd want a Red Bull athlete on their site.

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Old 10 Jan 2017, 00:13 (Ref:3701414)   #177
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Electric rallycross at SEMA Vegas 2017
http://us3.campaign-archive1.com/?u=...&id=91d483ca6e

and also this in 2017
http://speedleague.org/
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According to Swedish news giant Expressen, "they could reveal" that Solberg will be in a KMS VW along with Kristoffersson.

I know most of you guys don't understand Swedish but the article seems a bit odd. For example there are no more details besides from them being in KMS and Expressen writes very little about rallycross. They wrote that Solberg finished third last season too ...

http://www.expressen.se/sport/motor/...enskt-vw-team/

Feels somewhat weird if this is true. Solberg seems to have had his plans ready for some time and last month Tommy K said he wasn't sure if KMS would do WRX either, and maybe not even in VW cars either. They didn't even have cars then!

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Old 11 Jan 2017, 06:33 (Ref:3701731)   #179
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Doesn't sound like KMS is a VW works team?

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There have never been any works VW teams. THey try and push it to you that there are, but they are importer backed nothing more.

A works team is one that provides technical backup, improvements, goes testing with you, builds engines.

KMW was never that, they just had money from VW Sweden to add to their budget
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