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Old 1 Dec 2016, 16:56 (Ref:3692739)   #1576
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Just as much a Corvette as this, and no one seemed to mind this one!
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Old 1 Dec 2016, 17:43 (Ref:3692744)   #1577
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Old 1 Dec 2016, 17:43 (Ref:3692745)   #1578
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Just as much a Corvette as this, and no one seemed to mind this one!

Nice car, poor name, we had to put up with the name to get the car (money). But - totally aside from the point of my post.
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Old 1 Dec 2016, 19:44 (Ref:3692780)   #1579
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Looks like a Caddy to me.
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Just as much a Corvette as this, and no one seemed to mind this one!
Honestly, I dare to say the DP had more right to the Corvette name than the GTP did. At least the DP had a booming V8 inside it!

And I say that as someone who's favorite GTP car was the Corvette. Someday I hope to have enough money to buy a Mongoose GTP.
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Old 1 Dec 2016, 20:00 (Ref:3692783)   #1581
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Honestly, I dare to say the DP had more right to the Corvette name than the GTP did. At least the DP had a booming V8 inside it!

And I say that as someone who's favorite GTP car was the Corvette. Someday I hope to have enough money to buy a Mongoose GTP.
eum the gtp corvette also had a V8, it used 2 different engines irc
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Old 1 Dec 2016, 20:04 (Ref:3692787)   #1582
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eum the gtp corvette also had a V8, it used 2 different engines irc
Started as a turbo six.
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Pros for the Corvette GTP vs Corvette DP:

At least it had a monocoque chassis instead of the DP's tube frame chassis (in broad terms, the DP tube chassis were heavily modified Trans Am/IMSA GTO chassis with mid mounted engines vs front engines and inboard mounted push rod suspension. In deeper detail, DPs were--at least the Riley Tech cars--Riley R&S MkIIIs with roofs, which the MkIII was based partly on Riley's work on Trans Am cars--nothing wrong with that; if you know it and can use it to make an effective machine, use it. But, IMO, DPs were still technologically out of date with the similarly expensive SR/LMP cars they replaced).

Private teams did run small block Chevy V8s in them.

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In reality, it was no more relevant to a Corvette road car than the DP was.

The "factory" Hendrick Motorsports cars had the Falconer built Buick V6 turbo in them until HMS' dying days in IMSA, when they switched to the SBC for that car's final races.
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eum the gtp corvette also had a V8, it used 2 different engines irc
It only used the V8 the last two seasons it ran(88 and 89), and never did anything of note with it. The car ran the bulk of it's life(84-87), and took both of it's wins, with a turbocharged Buick V6.

A test chassis had a V8 for the entirety of the car's life, but as the term implies it was a testing-only vehicle(for things like a Lotus-designed active suspension system which sadly never made it to the racecar).
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Also, the Cadillac DPI is a bit of a let down. It's not a bad looking car, but the Dallara heritage is pretty clear, especially from the side. But that's also like saying that the Dallara itself is largely a cheap knock off of the Porsche 919 with Oreca 05 headlights on it. Granted, though it's not a huge job (Dallara made it easy for Cadillac, after all), it's a big improvement on the Dallara. It's sort of like comparing a AK-47 to a IWI Galil/Galil Ace or a Valmet/Sako RK62 or RK62/M76. Clear heritage, but still a big improvement over the original.

But then again, you can't make an apples to apples comparison to IMSA and the WEC due to different rules sets for their top prototype class, different venues, and different fan bases (even if there is a sizable cross over for the latter). Also, LMP1 teams build their whole cars from scratch, instead of taking an off the shelf chassis and modifying that to a team's needs.

That's why we actually need IMSA GTP, Group C and LMP900/675 back. More variety, more creatively on the part of the teams, etc.
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Looks like a Caddy to me.
Maybe I'm not seeing the right features.

Here's what I see that looks like Cadillac:
The side headlight LED.
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It's definitely a good looking car. Though I would hesitate to say it's a Cadillac looking car.

Now I really want to see the Nissan that they were told to try again lol.
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Private teams did run small block Chevy V8s in them.
It's been a long time since I referenced my GTP book, but I think there was a big block version as well. I think I remember that because was the last big block sportscar ever.

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It only used the V8 the last two seasons it ran(88 and 89), and never did anything of note with it. The car ran the bulk of it's life(84-87), and took both of it's wins, with a turbocharged Buick V6.
I believe that was a Vortec not a 3800 (not that there is a gigantic difference in overall design). Vortecs are monster little turbo motors.
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Again, we don't know which was designed first.

If the Cadillac was designed first, then then Dallara off that, it paints a very different picture.
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Maybe I'm not seeing the right features.

Here's what I see that looks like Cadillac:
The side headlight LED.
Stickers
Advertising


It's definitely a good looking car. Though I would hesitate to say it's a Cadillac looking car.

Now I really want to see the Nissan that they were told to try again lol.
I think there are some subtle changes to the sidepods and nose that don't come through in the rendering. We should be able to tell more once the camo comes off.
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It only used the V8 the last two seasons it ran(88 and 89), and never did anything of note with it. The car ran the bulk of it's life(84-87), and took both of it's wins, with a turbocharged Buick V6.

A test chassis had a V8 for the entirety of the car's life, but as the term implies it was a testing-only vehicle(for things like a Lotus-designed active suspension system which sadly never made it to the racecar).
Here is the detail of all races of the Corvette GTP and the engines used.
http://www.racingsportscars.com/type...tte%20GTP.html
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