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Old 11 Aug 2000, 01:48 (Ref:29693)   #1
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FROM ATLAS-F1



Rubens Barrichello said on Thursday that Ferrari's president Luca di Montezemolo had urged him to go all out for victory and not just focus on supporting teammate Michael Schumacher.

Barrichello, winner of the German Grand Prix at Hockenheim two weekends ago, said Montezemolo's comments to him contradicted the widely held view that he had been detailed to play a secondary role to the German.

The 28-year-old Brazilian said he had talked to Montezemolo at Ferrari's Fiorano circuit during testing on the Tuesday following the German race.

"He told me to do all I could to do everything for the team and to race to win, but he did not talk to me about racing for Michael in any way," said Barrichello who is now only 10 points behind Schumacher, leader of the drivers' contest.

Di Montezemolo had been reported in Italy saying that he told the Brazilian to race for Schumacher and to support him in his bid to win Ferrari's first drivers' title for 21 years.

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does anyone really believe this? we shall soon find out.



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Old 11 Aug 2000, 04:45 (Ref:29715)   #2
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how good would it be if barrichello did to schumacher what mansell did to piquet in 1986 and 1987 (even though piquet won the title in 87)....would rubens have to let michael pass if they were running 2nd and 3rd on the last lap at hungary?
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Old 11 Aug 2000, 07:06 (Ref:29722)   #3
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Rubens is naive

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Old 11 Aug 2000, 07:13 (Ref:29723)   #4
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how good would it be if barrichello did to schumacher what mansell did to piquet in 1986 and 1987 (even though piquet won the title in 87)....would rubens have to let michael pass if they were running 2nd and 3rd on the last lap at hungary?
The only problem here is that Mansell was as good as (if not better at that stage) Piquet. I don't think we can say the same about RB and MS.

We're really talking about MS failing at the first corner and RB qualifying well enough to compete with Macaroon. Not absolutely certain he's capable of doing that.

Besides. What's made Luca change his tune? Doubt it was the screams of "not fair" from the RB fans. I think we should wait and see what this weekend brings.
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Old 11 Aug 2000, 07:36 (Ref:29726)   #5
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Ferrari wants to win the WDC after all those years. They have spent a fortune on TGF, and they think that Rubens should help TGF to win. Orders will be given at the appropriate time for Rubens (Elmer Fudd) to pull over and let TGF win. Why are we all pussy footing around this?? This has been made perfectly clear by Luca.
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Old 12 Aug 2000, 03:25 (Ref:29924)   #6
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Liz should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridLiz should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
But will he be ordered to get out of his car and give same to TGF when TGF has dumped his car in the wall and rammed DC off the road in his T-car?
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Old 12 Aug 2000, 04:42 (Ref:29934)   #7
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Ohh camon now-you all sound like you believe that RB is actually better than MS and the only way in which MS can be ahead of him is thanks to team orders. Not me-I agree with Mr. Mallet on this one. Plus Hungary is very very different from Hockenheim-overtaking is difficult, power doesn't matter that much, and qualifying is important. RB has not shown anything spectacular in qualifying so I bet he'd be behind MS on the grid. And if Schuey makes it this time, RB won't even see his dust...
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Old 12 Aug 2000, 13:17 (Ref:29949)   #8
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As have been shown in today's qualifying... RB is simply not in the same league...

Place No. Driver Team Time Speed (kph)
1. 3. Schumacher M Ferrari 1'17"514 184.612
2. 2. Coulthard McLaren 1'17"886 183.730
3. 1. Hakkinen McLaren 1'17"922 183.645
4. 9. Schumacher R Williams 1'18"321 182.710
5. 4. Barrichello Ferrari 1'18"330 182.689
6. 5. Frentzen Jordan 1'18"523 182.240
7. 11. Fisichella Benetton 1'18"607 182.045
8. 10. Button Williams 1'18"699 181.832
9. 17. Salo Sauber 1'18"748 181.719
10. 7. Irvine Jaguar 1'19"008 181.121
11. 12. Wurz Benetton 1'19"259 180.547
12. 6. Trulli Jordan 1'19"266 180.531
13. 16. Diniz Sauber 1'19"451 180.111
14. 14. Alesi Prost 1'19"626 179.715
15. 18. de La Rosa Arrows 1'19"897 179.106
16. 22. Villeneuve BAR 1'19"937 179.016
17. 8. Herbert Jaguar 1'19"956 178.973
18. 23. Zonta BAR 1'20"272 178.269
19. 15. Heidfeld Prost 1'20"481 177.806
20. 19. Verstappen Arrows 1'20"609 177.524
21. 20. Gene Minardi 1'20"654 177.425
22. 21. Mazzacane Minardi 1'20"905 176.874

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Old 12 Aug 2000, 13:26 (Ref:29951)   #9
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Does that mean that at Silverstone MS was not in the same class as Rubinho?
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Old 12 Aug 2000, 13:33 (Ref:29954)   #10
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Liz should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridLiz should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Think of it this way: Which were the cars that crashed on the first lap last race? Who are the cars on the front row? What are the chances that the guy in Fifth Place may be through the first corner while the first two rows are trying to ram each other into retirement?

It may be the best position to be in back of the carnage as DC and TGF try to settle who is the bigger prat.

P.S. Did you notice that Luca Ferrari said with his own mouth that he did NOT say Rubens was not allowed to win the WDC and there was no mention of "over my dead body" today? Has he reconsidered or was he misquoted by TGF-Worshippers?
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Old 12 Aug 2000, 15:41 (Ref:29973)   #11
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yeah, right!
you think too much Liz...
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Old 12 Aug 2000, 19:03 (Ref:30001)   #12
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Remember what Julius Caesar said, "He thinks too much - such men are dangerous ... "

In that case, he was right, eh?
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Old 12 Aug 2000, 21:03 (Ref:30013)   #13
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Does that mean that at Silverstone MS was not in the same class as Rubinho?
Yup... pole at Silverstone and 3rd position at A1 (MS was 4th)...

TWICE!

Out of 12.

MH outqualifies DC only 5 times this year.

The facts speak for themselves.

So I would say that MH and DC are pretty much even, but RB is definitely not in the same league as MS, THIS year.
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Old 12 Aug 2000, 22:48 (Ref:30034)   #14
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RB isnt in the same league as MS but next seasoo he may be closer. MS has got to get through the first corner first because i think whoever does that will take the win, barring blowups or punt-offs.
Being on the "clean" side of the grid makes this seem quite likely.
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Old 12 Aug 2000, 22:57 (Ref:30039)   #15
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Question: Will Murray award the race to Mika in Lap Two, Lap Three or Lap Four? I don't think Mika has started a single race this year in which Murray has not awarded him the win before the fourth lap has been completed.

Me I hope he stuffs the car at Corner one, along with the two prats in the front row. Then the rest of us can go racing.
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