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When I was karting, all starts were rolling and there was never really any problems but that was always in classes where we all drove pretty much the same machinery. Libre is the only class in Mondello with such a diverse spread of machinery and so if we were to have rolling starts then we would have pretty much the exact scenario that you described in your post. Bear in mind that all it takes is one car stalling when leaving the Assembly area and the place is jammed up while a jump battery or air starter is re attached. While this is going on, the first few guys are sitting on the grid boiling. A possible solution to this would be to release everyone from the Assembly area where we then proceed to the grid and shut off for five mins or so. We then get released for the green flag lap, come back around and take the start as normal. Much of the waiting time on the grid is taken up by getting guys into position so if this could be done during those five mins then a lot of the boiling problems could be solved. Last edited by Peter Dunne; 7 Nov 2008 at 14:11. |
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Remember that a race was canceled this year due to poor entries and the last race was looking dodgy for a while until entries reached the lofty height of eleven! So basically we need every car we can get just to justify being there and after that its down to that old chestnut - driving standards. Last edited by Peter Dunne; 7 Nov 2008 at 14:43. |
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Not trying to be pedantic, but what happens if some guy (or girl) wants to try motor racing and decide to race a Vee.
In order to gain some racing experience they enter both the Vee and the Libre races. They could easily be 10sec off the Formula Vee pace at the start of the season. And obviously have zero racing experience. Will the organisers let them race? Last edited by SAMD; 7 Nov 2008 at 21:30. |
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I think the problem starts in the assembly area which is marked out more like a car park than a grid. If we were formed two by two in two lines then it would be really easy to know exactly who is in front of you when you arrive onto the circuit and also which side you are on. That being said, the grid markings on circuit are pretty faded and have various different types of markings be they from bikes or other configurations of car grids. (I think I like Burnsie's idea the best ) |
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"You're giving the likes of Driftwood some real ammo to have a go at us 'Oirish' there."
Its really incredible to see this super class going from strength to strength, well done all & keep up the momentum. Dont worry about old Driftwood, he just wants you all to pay for his beer when he comes over. I suspect he is of Irish extraction anyhow, saw a reference somewhere on here to him learning Gaelic at school. Fact is, if the racing is as good in 2009 with the new cars coming out, he wont be able to resist the trip. |
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Regarding the canceled race: This date was approved by the drivers at a meeting held in one of Mondello's hospitality suites. There were about 18 guys there, (show of hands and all that) yet when it came to the crunch, there were only 7 entries. Go figure... Thats what I mean when I say that we need every single car we can get. Indemnity: All opinions expressed are entirely my own and bear no resemblance whatsoever to those who organize/run Formula Libre |
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I definately think there needs to be two races on a day to make it worth while for folk to travel/make it worth while..
Unless i am mistaken ? there is no class at the mondello meetings for 'normal' sports cars - radicals etc ? hence they have to race in libre where they are simply making up the numbers.. just my opinion - and its my first post here so be gentle I started racing up in k/town this year, and plan to race 'away' in '09 be that mondello or in UK (if i can get some ££) but to travel down for one libre race against $$$ cars isn't wholly appealing to be honest.. Mark. |
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You have a valid point re double headers being an incentive for people that have to travel some distance. Its worth noting that Radical/V de V type machinery are quite competitive in Libre as proven by Wayne Douglas, Jim H and Eric Holstein (who put on a fantastic display and won in the wet at the LTM). I look forward to hopefully seeing you out in Libre next year What type of car do you plan on bringing out? |
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Cheers Peter,
i guess what i'm saying is the radical club/pro sports that are 'just' within the graps of the joe bloggs club racer seem to be left with no competitive grid/championship in mondello - just my opinion of course.... Wayne and that £xxxxx Juno's is in a different league to most radicals.. and Jim's car is in a different league again.. I'm planning to race a prosport 1300 totally std car.. will be a learning year anyway.. but is always good to have the chance of a competitive grid - there are a couple of classes up north that u am eligible for - and plenty of series' in UK too... the problem here is obviously the clubs trying to cater for everyone - and the low volume of competitors/cars will always be a factor... I'm definately keen to get out at mondello anyway - nice circuit.... Mark. |
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Hi guys, Having read i write up in autosport about your race meeting in angelsey and seeing a hillclimb pilbeam racing it very much got me thinking that i would like to do the same! i had no idea that hillclimb single seaters would be eligible in any race series and was over the moon to find this one.
We have the ex john leinster Pilbeam Mp88 Judd and the ex david grace Mp58 DFR and i would very much like to take one of them racing. I just had a few questions i hoped you could help with? 1, How long do the races last for, and what is the layout of the day? 2, Outwith getting the car mechanically able to last more than 4 laps, is there any other saftey requirements etc needed to be eligible? 3, How long has the championship been running for and is it a safe bet that it will run for the forseeable future without dying out or restictions being put on the big cars?(there is not much point converting a car and the series ending after 09!) Any info you could give me would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance Stewart |
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thanks for the info peter! Currently looking into what needs to be done for the cars to last!
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2009 race dates as follows
April 12 Mondello National May 10/11 Mondello International May 30 Kirkistown July 4/5 Anglesey August 9/10 Phoenix Park August 23 Mondello National Sept 12/13 Mondello International Ed |
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Allegedly. I've heard mention of the fact that fundraising activities are being examined in order to finance The Park.
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The park is still provisional at the minute.
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That may be so, but I know that Eamonn Ledwidge, Ann Stevens et al are working tirelessy to secure funding. Eamonn was telling me of some exciting plans for this years Park, so if sponsors can be found then it should be a cracker.
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